Posted on Nov 13, 2016
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COL Jon Thompson
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The same way we would have addressed OPSEC and Information Assurance if Hillary was the next President. We should not base our behaviors on the actions of our Civilian leaders. We as individuals should make sure we live up to our service values and not worry about others.
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Sir, yours is the most reasonable response I've yet received. I'm still waiting to hear from someone in the SHARP field.
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As in someone who works in the field of SH/SA prevention
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SSG Trevor S.
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You beat me to the same answer.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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He didn't "advocate" the behavior, in fact he apologized for it and said it was unacceptable. In my view, given the above, you don't have an issue.
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Thanks for posting a response to the actual question.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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At least when Mr Trump said anything improper He owned up to it instead of the HRC approach of not answering the question at all o trying to blame it on someone else. The late President Truman came up with some real gems also, He owned up to them also and moved on. As harry Truman said, "The buck stops Here" President Truman was known for speaking His mind and being politically correct was never His way.
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As I've stated throughout this discussion, I'm no fan of HRC. In fact, I'm relieved she not our first woman POTUS. That said, your point's moot because she won't be in our chain of command. I think as a country we have to stop embracing severely flawed leaders merely because we disagree with their opposition. Trump won fair and square. But that doesn't mean his behavior which was inconsistent with DoD's stated values shouldn't raise questions. In an extreme example, it's like saying at least Hitler didn't kill 20 million the way Stalin did. Neither's acceptable.
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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1SG(P) (Join to see) - the fact that it was 11 years ago and he apologized and said it was inappropriate, means that he has come to a new light, how many of use have said things in the past that we regret, also in reguards to the entertainment society take a good long look at beyoncee and her attire, mylie cyrus list can continue, I will not condem someone for their past transgretions but will support someone who has learned and risen above
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LTC Joseph Gross
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I'm assuming SAPR is something dealing with SHARP. He didn't advocate for that. We do our job the same way we always have. We continue to waste our time giving SHARP and EO briefings that no one pays attention to and has no impact on anyone intent on harassing someone.
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I edited the question from "advocated" to "condoned".
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Brought to you by the magic of google:
http://www.sexualassault.army.mil/
http://www.sapr.mil/
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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LTC Joseph Gross - sir interesting response, in my little neck of the woods Hobart college male student with accusation of rape dismissed from the college, when the dirt settled it was found that it was not rape, it was only because a so called rape advisor told her it was, the male was found not guilty by the law but he could not continue his education there or even see his own sister graduate, the people that investigated and decided this young mans future had no training but were willing to put his life away based on little to no evidence, SHARP/EO are good programs as long as the people in charge are trained as well as the counsellors/ reps/ investigators, otherwise its just check the block training
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LTC Joseph Gross
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Crazy how many different viewpoints there are to this. No doubt the system will always be abused and there will be people who need the education they receive in the program. Sounds like another example where command and leadership needs to be actively involved and watch for abuse.
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