Posted on Nov 22, 2013
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Was anyone actually offended by being referred to as any of these things?

When i was at Bragg an official memo came out starting the term "leg" was offensive and all non-airborne personnel would henceforth be referred to as "NAP". Now some people are offended by that term.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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During Viet Nam, "Leg, "Hump", "Grunt" were all derogatory terms for the rifleman on the front line - made by "REMFs" - which was the derogatory term the riflemen used for those that stayed behind the wire. The military is full of these expressions that men use to rag on others while making their own service look superior.

It is all done in fun and anybody that gets upset about it is a snowflake.
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Sgt David Hesser
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I was thinking the same thing. it is amassing how it has taken a 180, but it was wrong of us to look down on them then.
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Meh, if you really get that offended by words what do you think bullets will do to you in combat? Give you a little bit of the Jessica Lynch syndrome, that's what. Get over it, if you don't want to be a leg, go to Airborne school. As far as being a POG, you gotta understand something, being an Infantryman is far more difficult than you probably think. I know, I served in an Infantry unit while in the 'Stan, and as an Artilleryman, earned their respect because I was with them on every mission. By the end of that tour it didn't matter that I wasn't an Infantryman, I was one of them because I endured beside them as a Combat Advisor. Earn respect through your actions, and don't be so sensitive if you get heckled a little bit.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
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Leg was soooo much cooler! I don't care what people want to call me, I know my value to both the Army and myself...

I do think that we have become a bit to sensitive, maybe on the 'smaller' issues, we should dig out the sand wedged into 'those places' and focus our attention on things that matter...you know, like training, mentoring and teaching those that will replace us!
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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If I ever get called "leg" I will ask if Airborne is sort of like Ranger or Special Operations training and they will hopefully say no and I will respond with, "thought so".
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CW2 Eric Scott
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No because I understand our job involves the killing, or support killing, of enemies of our country. Why would I care if my own team calls me names I know to be good in nature.
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GySgt Joe Strong
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IMHO, if you are offended by any of the above appellations you are afraid you aren't providing enough value.

While everyone wants the glory, not everyone can be the root toot shootin' end of the Spear.

But if you examine the proposition, the Spear is made much more useful by the Logistical support of the Shaft that extends it towards the enemy. Sure that cutting edge could do it's work on it's own, but much less effectively and with much less Power and Reach.

I'm a REMF POG who also happens to be a Leg, if the PC world changes Leg to NAP what do I care?. Not a problem for me. I know I delivered value.
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As far as NAP??  Never been on Bragg, so never been referred by that.

As far as POG?  Yeah, I've been called that to my face.  Never more than once, when I point out that we're one team, one fight.

But my favorite is REMF.  I'm Signal, so I'm not always in the rear, but I think we all know what the MF stands for...  the last time someone called me that, my response was "You know what MF stands for...how do you know it's not YOUR mother?"
  
He never called me that again.
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MAJ Joseph Parker
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Chief: You are a hard man! The first thing those of us that are Infantry Airborne Ranger for life are taught about signalmen is this: "If you're outta commo, you're outta beer." We can pay no higher tribute to non-Infantry personnel, except the unspoken bond with medics.
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Nah, I'm not a hard man, I'm just a sarcastic son of a ...... who can adjust to the situation.
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SFC Signal Support Systems Specialist
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Chief! How can you talk about your own mother that way!
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*LOL*  because I come from a family of smart-asses.

Case in point, it was one Thanksgiving, where I was back in RI visiting family.  My aunt Joanna was moaning and griping about how her son (my cousin Darryl) was over 30, and it made her feel old.

My mom (her sister) piped up with "Oh shut up Joanna, my oldest (meaning me) is over 40!  What does that make me??"

I could NOT stop myself...I piped up and said "Ancient!"

My mom said "Shut up you son of a b-----"

With the biggest sh** eating grin I said "Whatever you say, Mom!"

She threw a dishtowel at me.  It was 10 minutes before anyone in the family could stop laughing.
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SFC Jason Hill
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I didn't know I was a POG, until I wasn't one anymore. Signal, then Infantry. Didn't really care then, and I'm completely over it all now that I am retired.
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SSgt Matthew Goodness
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We use the term "Nonners" in the Air Force. Nonners are why the Air Force is seen as the "Chair Force". The term "nonner" is usually used by flightline personnel to describe those who are "Non-mission essential personnel". 
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It never offended me.&nbsp; However, when someone calls me a POG, I have to wonder if they know what that term really means.<br>
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Its not the word itself that bothers me so much as how they are using it. If they intend it as an insult, an insult is how I'll take it. 
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You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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I remember PINGS, PITS.    But never those, however.
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SGT Geospatial Intelligence Imagery Analyst
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These nick names are like anything else in the military. People talk about getting offended by the most ridiculous things. I stand by my opinion if it is even remotely easy for you to become offended, then what the hell are you doing in the military. It's our job to find bad people and kill them, not cry or whine about our feelings when someone tells a colorful joke or pseudonym. <br>
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I agree with your sediment. I only believe it inappropriate when it's purposely used to degrade other Soldiers.

Like I stated earlier, there is no honor or professionalism when nicknames or titles are used in a derogatory manner. Simply because someone joins the Army doesn't mean they should expect to be degraded simply for the purpose of harassment. Even the trial of BCT has a purpose.,what's the purpose of calling others names?
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SGT Carissa Lara, RCS
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It depends on how it's used. I don't care if someone calls me a POG most of outhe time. Now if your saying it to imply that I haven't done anything in the military then I'll quickly correct you about your stupid assumptions.
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SPC Generator Mechanic
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I believe that we are getting way too thin skinned as a society especially in the military if you can't handle some name calling you should probably fine a new career path
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SSG Small Group Leader
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I'm to the age where 'Fk what everybody thinks of me' is my battle cry.
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MAJ(P) Operations Research/Systems Analysis
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I was never offended by any of these terms. I'm an AG guy and I'm chair borne. However, I'm good at what I do and others can mock me until they need me.

I think the issue is that some Soldiers take it too far. Their sole intent is to degrade other Soldiers. Where's the honor in that? It's not about being PC. It's about being professional.

I'm proud to be a dirty nasty leg.
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SPC Daniel Edwards
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Can't please everyone and we are not in the business of pleasing people. They need to get over it.
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SPC Jack Hunt, JR
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MSG it's a sensitive military what we joked about 15-20 years ago is bullying now.

I remember my first week that I got to my unit after jump school and boy was I given a hard time for being a cherry, Red painted Kevlar and all.

To me it was just what I had to deal with to be accepted into an awesome brotherhood.
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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I think people just like to be offended nowadays.

How did these people get through BCT?
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SFC Readiness Nco/Platoon Sergeant
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I am mixed about it, on one side I know that usually it is light hearted and meant for laughs. On others, it is meant to belittle, and behurtful.  Many "POG" Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines have made sacrifices, been hurt, or killed.
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