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You know that racist flag? The one that supposedly honors history but actually spreads a pernicious myth? And is useful only to venal right-wing politicians who wish to exploit hatred by calling it heritage? It’s past time to pull it down.
Oh, wait. You thought I was referring to the Confederate flag. Actually, I’m talking about the POW/MIA flag.
I told the story in the first chapter of my 2014 book The Invisible Bridge: The Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan: how Richard Nixon invented the cult of the “POW/MIA” in order to justify the carnage in Vietnam in a way that rendered the United States as its sole victim.
It began, as cultural historian H. Bruce Franklin has documented, with an opportunistic shift in terminology. Downed pilots whose bodies were not recovered—which, in the dense jungle of a place like Vietnam meant most pilots—had once been classified “Killed in Action/Body Unrecovered.”
During the Nixon years, the Pentagon moved them into a newly invented “Missing in Action” column. That proved convenient, for, after years of playing down the existence of American prisoners in Vietnam, in 1969, the new president suddenly decided to play them up.
He declared their treatment, and the enemy’s refusal to provide a list of their names, violations of the Geneva Conventions—the better to paint the North Vietnamese as uniquely cruel and inhumane. He also demanded the release of American prisoners as a precondition to ending the war.
This was bullshit four times over: first, because in every other conflict in human history, the release of prisoners had been something settled at the close of a war; second, because these prisoners only existed because of America’s antecedent violations of the Geneva Conventions in bombing civilians in an undeclared war; third, because, as bad as their torture of prisoners was, rather than representing some species of Oriental despotism, the Vietnam Communists were only borrowing techniques practiced on them by their French colonists (and incidentally paid forward by us in places like Abu Ghraib): see this as-told-to memoir by POW and future senator Jeremiah Denton. And finally, our South Vietnamese allies’ treatment of their prisoners, who lived manacled to the floors in crippling underground bamboo “tiger cages” in prison camps built by us, was far worse than the torture our personnel suffered.
(Time magazine quoted one South Vietnamese official who was confronted with stories of released prisoners moving “like crabs, skittering across the floor on buttocks and palms,” and responded with incredulity that such survivors even existed: “No one ever comes from the tiger cages alive.”)
Be that as it may: It worked. American citizens enacted a bizarre psychic reversal. A man from Virginia Beach, Virginia, described to a reporter the supposed treatment of American prisoners in North Vietnam: “They just dig holes in the ground and drop them in. They throw food down to them, and let them live there in their own waste.” In fact, that was how prisoners were treated in South Vietnam—as recently revealed in a shocking Life magazine exposé.
Children began wearing “POW bracelets,” drivers sported “POWs NEVER HAVE A NICE DAY” bumper stickers. As the late Jonathan Schell of The New Yorker memorably wrote during the war, the Americans were acting “as though the North Vietnamese had kidnapped 400 Americans and the United States had gone to war to retrieve them.”
Actually, it was worse: Whenever Nixon or one of his minions talked about the problem, they tended to use the number 1,400. The number of actual prisoners, was about 550. The number of downed, missing pilots were spoken of, prima facia, as if they were missing, too, although almost all of them were certainly dead.
And in 1971 that damned flag went up.
The flag was the creation of the National League of Families of Prisoners of War, later the National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia, a fascinating part of the story in itself.
The organization was founded by POW wife Sybil Stockdale, during the Johnson administration, in an effort to embarrass LBJ and challenge his line that all in Vietnam was going swell. Johnson tried to silence them; Nixon’s people, however, spying opportunity, coopted the group, sometimes inventing chapters outright, to fan the propaganda flames.
Then the war ended, the POWs (yes, all the POWs) were repatriated to great fanfare, one of them declaring: “I want you to remember that we walked out of Hanoi as winners”—a declaration that seemed to suggest, almost, that by surviving, the POWs had won the Vietnam War.
The moral confusion was abetted by the flag: the barbed-wire misery of that stark white figure, emblazoned in black.
It memorializes Americans as the preeminent victims of the Vietnam War, a notion seared into the nation’s visual unconscious by the Oscar-nominated 1978 film The Deer Hunter, which depicts acts of sadism, which were documented to have been carried out by our South Vietnamese allies, as acts committed by our North Vietnamese enemies, including the famous scene pictured on The Deer Hunter poster: a pistol pointed at the American prisoner’s head at exactly the same angle of the gun in the famous photograph of the summary execution in the middle of the street of an alleged Communist spy by a South Vietnamese official.
By then, the league and its flag had become the Pentagon’s own Frankenstein’s monster. You can read about the mess that resulted in the definitive book on the subject: Until the Last Man Comes Home: POWs, MIAs, and the Unending Vietnam War by Northwestern University’s Michael J. Allen.
Allen describes how Vietnam’s “refusal” to “account for” a thousand phantoms became an impediment to reconciliation and diplomatic recognition between the two nations. (How bizarre, how insulting, how counterproductive this must have been to a nation that must have suffered missing corpses in the thousands upon thousands?)
A delegation led by Congressman Gillespie “Sonny” Montgomery (D-Miss.), chairman of the House Select Committee on Missing in Action in Southeast Asia, traveled to Vietnam in 1975, convinced of the Nixon administration’s deception that hundreds of “MIAs actually” existed.
The members of Congress returned home, having found their Communist hosts warm and accommodating, doubting there were any missing at all. In hearings, a CIA pilot captured there in 1965 testified: “If you take a wallet-full of money over there, you can buy all the information you want on POWs on the streets.”
The House committee also produced evidence that China had manufactured stories of MIA in Vietnamese prison camps in order to keep the U.S. from normalizing relations with China’s Asian rival. No matter that the flag’s promoters were abetting an actual, real-live Communist conspiracy, from its original sightings above VFW and American Legion posts, the “You Are Not Forgotten” flag became as common as kudzu.
Midwifing an entire metastasizing Pentagon bureaucracy, the League of Families would also become an irritant to every future president. By 1993, 17 Americans were stationed in Hanoi in charge of searching for the missing and working to repatriate remains. They were provided a budget of $100 million a year, “over 30 times the value of U.S. humanitarian aid paid to Vietnam,” Allen writes.
It would have been evidence of Ronald Reagan’s old saw that the closest thing to eternal life is a government program—if Reagan were not a prime culprit: In 1988, he became the first president to fly the flag over the White House. The next year, Congress installed the flag in the Capitol rotunda.
In 1990, it was designated “a symbol of our nation’s concern and commitment to restoring and resolving as fully as possible the fates of Americans still prisoner, missing and unaccounted for in Southeast Asia.” Thus ending the uncertainty for their families and the nation.
The League of Families also still exists, and “continues to work at keeping the pressure on both Washington and Hanoi to bring complete resolution to this issue on behalf of each family with a loved one still missing in Vietnam.” My own state of Illinois holds a ceremony every year to honor the “66 Illinoisans listed as MIA or POW in Southeast Asia.”
And Bernie Sanders posted an image of the POW/MIA flag on Facebook in response to Donald Trump’s insult against John McCain. The message read: “They are all heroes.”
Actually, as I document in The Invisible Bridge, it’s more complicated than that: many of the prisoners were anti-war activists. One member of the “Peace Committee” within the POW camps, Abel Larry Kavanaugh, was harassed into suicide after his return to the U.S. by the likes of Admiral James Stockdale, who tried to get Peace Committee members hanged for treason.
Stockdale would become one of the nation’s most celebrated former POWs and a vice-presidential candidate. Kavanaugh took his life in his father in law’s basement in Commerce City, Colorado, in June 1973. Americans would agree that one of them—Stockdale or Kavanaugh—is not a hero—though they would disagree about which one is which.
That damned flag: It’s a shroud. It smothers the complexity, the reality, of what really happened in Vietnam.
We’ve come to our senses about that other banner of lies. It’s time to do the same with this.
https://archive.is/sVUot#selection-2277.0-2517.93
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You know that racist flag? The one that supposedly honors history but actually spreads a pernicious myth? And is useful only to venal right-wing politicians who wish to exploit hatred by calling it heritage? It’s past time to pull it down.
Oh, wait. You thought I was referring to the Confederate flag. Actually, I’m talking about the POW/MIA flag.
I told the story in the first chapter of my 2014 book The Invisible Bridge: The Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan: how Richard Nixon invented the cult of the “POW/MIA” in order to justify the carnage in Vietnam in a way that rendered the United States as its sole victim.
It began, as cultural historian H. Bruce Franklin has documented, with an opportunistic shift in terminology. Downed pilots whose bodies were not recovered—which, in the dense jungle of a place like Vietnam meant most pilots—had once been classified “Killed in Action/Body Unrecovered.”
During the Nixon years, the Pentagon moved them into a newly invented “Missing in Action” column. That proved convenient, for, after years of playing down the existence of American prisoners in Vietnam, in 1969, the new president suddenly decided to play them up.
He declared their treatment, and the enemy’s refusal to provide a list of their names, violations of the Geneva Conventions—the better to paint the North Vietnamese as uniquely cruel and inhumane. He also demanded the release of American prisoners as a precondition to ending the war.
This was bullshit four times over: first, because in every other conflict in human history, the release of prisoners had been something settled at the close of a war; second, because these prisoners only existed because of America’s antecedent violations of the Geneva Conventions in bombing civilians in an undeclared war; third, because, as bad as their torture of prisoners was, rather than representing some species of Oriental despotism, the Vietnam Communists were only borrowing techniques practiced on them by their French colonists (and incidentally paid forward by us in places like Abu Ghraib): see this as-told-to memoir by POW and future senator Jeremiah Denton. And finally, our South Vietnamese allies’ treatment of their prisoners, who lived manacled to the floors in crippling underground bamboo “tiger cages” in prison camps built by us, was far worse than the torture our personnel suffered.
(Time magazine quoted one South Vietnamese official who was confronted with stories of released prisoners moving “like crabs, skittering across the floor on buttocks and palms,” and responded with incredulity that such survivors even existed: “No one ever comes from the tiger cages alive.”)
Be that as it may: It worked. American citizens enacted a bizarre psychic reversal. A man from Virginia Beach, Virginia, described to a reporter the supposed treatment of American prisoners in North Vietnam: “They just dig holes in the ground and drop them in. They throw food down to them, and let them live there in their own waste.” In fact, that was how prisoners were treated in South Vietnam—as recently revealed in a shocking Life magazine exposé.
Children began wearing “POW bracelets,” drivers sported “POWs NEVER HAVE A NICE DAY” bumper stickers. As the late Jonathan Schell of The New Yorker memorably wrote during the war, the Americans were acting “as though the North Vietnamese had kidnapped 400 Americans and the United States had gone to war to retrieve them.”
Actually, it was worse: Whenever Nixon or one of his minions talked about the problem, they tended to use the number 1,400. The number of actual prisoners, was about 550. The number of downed, missing pilots were spoken of, prima facia, as if they were missing, too, although almost all of them were certainly dead.
And in 1971 that damned flag went up.
The flag was the creation of the National League of Families of Prisoners of War, later the National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia, a fascinating part of the story in itself.
The organization was founded by POW wife Sybil Stockdale, during the Johnson administration, in an effort to embarrass LBJ and challenge his line that all in Vietnam was going swell. Johnson tried to silence them; Nixon’s people, however, spying opportunity, coopted the group, sometimes inventing chapters outright, to fan the propaganda flames.
Then the war ended, the POWs (yes, all the POWs) were repatriated to great fanfare, one of them declaring: “I want you to remember that we walked out of Hanoi as winners”—a declaration that seemed to suggest, almost, that by surviving, the POWs had won the Vietnam War.
The moral confusion was abetted by the flag: the barbed-wire misery of that stark white figure, emblazoned in black.
It memorializes Americans as the preeminent victims of the Vietnam War, a notion seared into the nation’s visual unconscious by the Oscar-nominated 1978 film The Deer Hunter, which depicts acts of sadism, which were documented to have been carried out by our South Vietnamese allies, as acts committed by our North Vietnamese enemies, including the famous scene pictured on The Deer Hunter poster: a pistol pointed at the American prisoner’s head at exactly the same angle of the gun in the famous photograph of the summary execution in the middle of the street of an alleged Communist spy by a South Vietnamese official.
By then, the league and its flag had become the Pentagon’s own Frankenstein’s monster. You can read about the mess that resulted in the definitive book on the subject: Until the Last Man Comes Home: POWs, MIAs, and the Unending Vietnam War by Northwestern University’s Michael J. Allen.
Allen describes how Vietnam’s “refusal” to “account for” a thousand phantoms became an impediment to reconciliation and diplomatic recognition between the two nations. (How bizarre, how insulting, how counterproductive this must have been to a nation that must have suffered missing corpses in the thousands upon thousands?)
A delegation led by Congressman Gillespie “Sonny” Montgomery (D-Miss.), chairman of the House Select Committee on Missing in Action in Southeast Asia, traveled to Vietnam in 1975, convinced of the Nixon administration’s deception that hundreds of “MIAs actually” existed.
The members of Congress returned home, having found their Communist hosts warm and accommodating, doubting there were any missing at all. In hearings, a CIA pilot captured there in 1965 testified: “If you take a wallet-full of money over there, you can buy all the information you want on POWs on the streets.”
The House committee also produced evidence that China had manufactured stories of MIA in Vietnamese prison camps in order to keep the U.S. from normalizing relations with China’s Asian rival. No matter that the flag’s promoters were abetting an actual, real-live Communist conspiracy, from its original sightings above VFW and American Legion posts, the “You Are Not Forgotten” flag became as common as kudzu.
Midwifing an entire metastasizing Pentagon bureaucracy, the League of Families would also become an irritant to every future president. By 1993, 17 Americans were stationed in Hanoi in charge of searching for the missing and working to repatriate remains. They were provided a budget of $100 million a year, “over 30 times the value of U.S. humanitarian aid paid to Vietnam,” Allen writes.
It would have been evidence of Ronald Reagan’s old saw that the closest thing to eternal life is a government program—if Reagan were not a prime culprit: In 1988, he became the first president to fly the flag over the White House. The next year, Congress installed the flag in the Capitol rotunda.
In 1990, it was designated “a symbol of our nation’s concern and commitment to restoring and resolving as fully as possible the fates of Americans still prisoner, missing and unaccounted for in Southeast Asia.” Thus ending the uncertainty for their families and the nation.
The League of Families also still exists, and “continues to work at keeping the pressure on both Washington and Hanoi to bring complete resolution to this issue on behalf of each family with a loved one still missing in Vietnam.” My own state of Illinois holds a ceremony every year to honor the “66 Illinoisans listed as MIA or POW in Southeast Asia.”
And Bernie Sanders posted an image of the POW/MIA flag on Facebook in response to Donald Trump’s insult against John McCain. The message read: “They are all heroes.”
Actually, as I document in The Invisible Bridge, it’s more complicated than that: many of the prisoners were anti-war activists. One member of the “Peace Committee” within the POW camps, Abel Larry Kavanaugh, was harassed into suicide after his return to the U.S. by the likes of Admiral James Stockdale, who tried to get Peace Committee members hanged for treason.
Stockdale would become one of the nation’s most celebrated former POWs and a vice-presidential candidate. Kavanaugh took his life in his father in law’s basement in Commerce City, Colorado, in June 1973. Americans would agree that one of them—Stockdale or Kavanaugh—is not a hero—though they would disagree about which one is which.
That damned flag: It’s a shroud. It smothers the complexity, the reality, of what really happened in Vietnam.
We’ve come to our senses about that other banner of lies. It’s time to do the same with this.
https://archive.is/sVUot#selection-2277.0-2517.93
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It's not racist. It was invented by a guy in the seventies. He wanted to make a few bucks selling flags in the gun magazines like Guns and Ammo, Shotgun News and SOF. It was a hard sell for him at first. He and I corresponded for awhile. We both were running classified ads in the same magazines (Think mail order!). Around 1982 he offered to sell the rights for $1000.00. No kidding. I can probably prove this if anyone is interested. (I never (almost) throw anything out.) Probably would make a better story then that joker's Invisible Bridge. grin
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It was obvious to me that the author, a diehard liberal, used his diatribe to bring as much Anti-conservative comment and “shame” on the conservative movement in the USA as he possible could. His article would have been much better received had he not used his Peru attacks on anything he considered as anti-liberal. A real shame. His basis was very good.
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right... and I suppose you believe that George Floyd was innocent as he lay on the ground dead, because an unknown officer intervened and made the officer with his knee on Floyd's neck move it... to the far shoulder... INSTANTLY his shoulder went to the ground, where his chin was trapped, and then his chin lined up with his shoulder... neck broken, by that unknown officer in brown.
No... he wasn't innocent... he just attempted to pass counterfeit money... that's two Class A Capital Felonies... LIFE IN PRISON... and he KNEW that... so he resisted arrest, from first contact, to death.
The only reason Floyd was on the ground is because that huge man grabbed the cop trying to put him in the squad car by the neck, raised him off the ground, WITH ONE HAND, and body slammed him...
which resulted with four cops pinning him to the ground while they waited for the ambulance with the strait jacket to arrive. He as just fine until that brown uniformed officer intervened...
BUT THOSE 4 COPS WILL GO TO PRISON FOR DOING THEIR JOBS TO ARREST A CAPITAL FELON WHO WAS RESISTING ARREST... IN THE WAY THEY WERE TRAINED.
Those cops don't belong in jail... their training needs to be changed.
AND THAT BROWN UNIFORMED OFFICER NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MURDER >(
Having said that: HOW DARE YOU DEMEAN THE WIVES AND FAMILIES OF THOSE MISSING PRESUMED DEAD, UNRECOVERED SOLDIER'S BODIES >(
THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO MOURN, AND HONOR THEIR LOVED ONES >(
I suppose you also take a knee to the Flag, the National Anthem, and fully believe that every word of hearsay presented was valid evidence in the Trump Impeachment and Trial... oxymoron politically correct NAZI speech... hearsay is valid as evidence of a crime (according to U.S. Federal Rules of Evidence) AS A DEATH BED CONFESSION OF A CRIMINAL. None of those 17 liars was dying...
and the only confession EACH OF THEM MADE when cross examined by the defense... THEY PERJURED THEMSELVES... THEY LIED... AND ADMITTED... TRUMP WAS DOING HIS JOB AS COMMANDED BY THE CONSTITUTION, U.S. LAW, INTERNATIONAL TREATY LAW... AND THE TREATIES WITH UKRAINE... go read them... fact check... find the truth.
I also suppose you also believe it's okay for our Congress (it wasn't Nixon... it was Congress btw... the President has no power to create flags or organizations without Congress approval) to stand and shout through the entire Impeachment and Trial that "CHINA... IS... THE ENEMY! ... RUSSIA... IS... THE ENEMY! .. NO ONE... IS ABOVE ... THE LAW!!!!!" ...
--> WHILE THEY LEAD INVADERS INTO OUR NATION, GIVING THEM SANCTUARY FROM THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THEY BE REPELLED WITH MILITARY FORCE...
--> WHILE THEY MAKE TRADE DEALS WITH OUR ENEMIES: SAUDI ARABIA (WHO ATTACKED u.s. ON 9/11), BRITAIN, CHINA, RUSSIA, JAPAN, AND THE INVADERS... THAT TAKE OUR PROSPEROUS BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY AWAY FROM U.S. ... AND GIVE THEM TO THOSE ENEMIES???
YES ... THEY .... ARE .. OUR ... ENEMIES! >(
FRIENDLY RELATIONS DOES NOT A FRIEND MAKE... WHEN THAT "FRIEND" WANTS TO DESTROY AND TAKE YOUR COUNTRY FROM YOU >(
JAPAN... CHINA... RUSSIA... BRITAIN... SAUDI ARABIA...
IMPERIAL DICTATOR NATIONS THAT SEEK TO OPPRESS U.S. INTO SERVING THEM >(
and our Congress is making it Law...
But you are okay with that... eh?
I have one word for people like you... it's a contraction of two words... National Socialist... figure it out... my word for all dictators who believe they have the right to condemn that which they don't understand >(
No... he wasn't innocent... he just attempted to pass counterfeit money... that's two Class A Capital Felonies... LIFE IN PRISON... and he KNEW that... so he resisted arrest, from first contact, to death.
The only reason Floyd was on the ground is because that huge man grabbed the cop trying to put him in the squad car by the neck, raised him off the ground, WITH ONE HAND, and body slammed him...
which resulted with four cops pinning him to the ground while they waited for the ambulance with the strait jacket to arrive. He as just fine until that brown uniformed officer intervened...
BUT THOSE 4 COPS WILL GO TO PRISON FOR DOING THEIR JOBS TO ARREST A CAPITAL FELON WHO WAS RESISTING ARREST... IN THE WAY THEY WERE TRAINED.
Those cops don't belong in jail... their training needs to be changed.
AND THAT BROWN UNIFORMED OFFICER NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MURDER >(
Having said that: HOW DARE YOU DEMEAN THE WIVES AND FAMILIES OF THOSE MISSING PRESUMED DEAD, UNRECOVERED SOLDIER'S BODIES >(
THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO MOURN, AND HONOR THEIR LOVED ONES >(
I suppose you also take a knee to the Flag, the National Anthem, and fully believe that every word of hearsay presented was valid evidence in the Trump Impeachment and Trial... oxymoron politically correct NAZI speech... hearsay is valid as evidence of a crime (according to U.S. Federal Rules of Evidence) AS A DEATH BED CONFESSION OF A CRIMINAL. None of those 17 liars was dying...
and the only confession EACH OF THEM MADE when cross examined by the defense... THEY PERJURED THEMSELVES... THEY LIED... AND ADMITTED... TRUMP WAS DOING HIS JOB AS COMMANDED BY THE CONSTITUTION, U.S. LAW, INTERNATIONAL TREATY LAW... AND THE TREATIES WITH UKRAINE... go read them... fact check... find the truth.
I also suppose you also believe it's okay for our Congress (it wasn't Nixon... it was Congress btw... the President has no power to create flags or organizations without Congress approval) to stand and shout through the entire Impeachment and Trial that "CHINA... IS... THE ENEMY! ... RUSSIA... IS... THE ENEMY! .. NO ONE... IS ABOVE ... THE LAW!!!!!" ...
--> WHILE THEY LEAD INVADERS INTO OUR NATION, GIVING THEM SANCTUARY FROM THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THEY BE REPELLED WITH MILITARY FORCE...
--> WHILE THEY MAKE TRADE DEALS WITH OUR ENEMIES: SAUDI ARABIA (WHO ATTACKED u.s. ON 9/11), BRITAIN, CHINA, RUSSIA, JAPAN, AND THE INVADERS... THAT TAKE OUR PROSPEROUS BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY AWAY FROM U.S. ... AND GIVE THEM TO THOSE ENEMIES???
YES ... THEY .... ARE .. OUR ... ENEMIES! >(
FRIENDLY RELATIONS DOES NOT A FRIEND MAKE... WHEN THAT "FRIEND" WANTS TO DESTROY AND TAKE YOUR COUNTRY FROM YOU >(
JAPAN... CHINA... RUSSIA... BRITAIN... SAUDI ARABIA...
IMPERIAL DICTATOR NATIONS THAT SEEK TO OPPRESS U.S. INTO SERVING THEM >(
and our Congress is making it Law...
But you are okay with that... eh?
I have one word for people like you... it's a contraction of two words... National Socialist... figure it out... my word for all dictators who believe they have the right to condemn that which they don't understand >(
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The word Racist is a "politically correct" description assigned by an individual that feels something is wrong, wishing to express their opinion about a person or object. The funny thing is, the true Racist is the one bringing the person, or object to light because they have to try and make you feel less of an human being. A racist 9 times out of 10 outs themselves by bringing up the issue in the first place, by classifying, expressing their thoughts, and feelings. Those of us not really caring by expressing our opinion on the subject matter, or person, are generally more accepting than the accusatory in the first place.
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Rick Perlstein is a anti conservative who has written about Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan to follow the party line. If you expect this individual to do anything other then to follow the party line you will be disappointed. He is not worth the time nor the effort to give him any press time or recognition.
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
hmmm "anti-conservative?
Do you understand what liberal means when combined with democrat?
Do you understand what conservative means when combined with Republican?
THIS Nation is SUPPOSED to be a DEMOCRATICALLY Represented Constitutional REPUBLIC.
A person who calls their self a Liberal Democrat... is SUPPOSED to be someone who believes in the FREE AND LIBERAL USE OF DEMOCRACY... No a person who will liberally (Legislate) away this Nation to Our Enemies!
A person who calls their self a Conservative Republican... is SUPPOSED to be someone who believes in Conserving the Strength and Unity of this REPUBLIC!
Democrats and Republicans are POLITICIANS.
We the People are CITIZENS who are SUPPOSED to believe in being allowed the FREE AND LIBERAL USE OF DEOCRACY TO CONSERVE THE STRENGTH AND UNITY OF THIS REPUBLIC...
While we allow Our Public SERVANYS to DICTATE (WTO, NAFTA, CATFA, SAFTA, TPIP, USMCA, and all the Trade Deals that give U.S. to Our Enemies... the Ponzi Scheme called ACA... BY LAW) LAWS THAT ARE FORBIDDEN BY OUR LAW???
--> Article Three, Section3... "Treason shall consist only in LEVYING WAR AGAINST THEM (the U.S.), OR in ADHERING to the Enemy giving them Aid and Comfort"
Joining Our FREE Nation the the 164 Dictator Nations is not Treason?
Legislating Our Jobs to Our Enemies... is not Treason?
Levying War against U.S. with the INVADERS (By Definition) THEY Lead against U.S.... as they gift those invaders our jobs, our homes, our LIVES???
WHERE IS THE DEMOCRACY???
RAISE YOUR HAND... WHICH OF YOU WERE ACTUALLY ALLOWED FREE DEMOCRACY BY YOUR DICTATORS AS THEY TAKE AWAY OUR LIVES... IN FAVOR OF OUR ENEMIES???
ANSWER: NONE OF YOU THE PEOPLE!!!
And now we are all in abject poverty... BY LAW?
and YOU ALL RE-ELECTED THE SAME PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO INFLICT DESTRUCTION OF OUR NATION THROUGH HIGH TREASON... APPROVE OF THAT!!!
Go ahead... keep believing what you want to believe...
While your Nation is take over from the inside... AS KRUSHCHEV PROMISED... WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT!!!
--> ARE YOU READY TO TAKE ARMS TO GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK FROM OUR ENEMY DICTATORS???
NO... YOU CHOOSE... TO BE ENSLAVED TO RULERS!!!
Do you understand what liberal means when combined with democrat?
Do you understand what conservative means when combined with Republican?
THIS Nation is SUPPOSED to be a DEMOCRATICALLY Represented Constitutional REPUBLIC.
A person who calls their self a Liberal Democrat... is SUPPOSED to be someone who believes in the FREE AND LIBERAL USE OF DEMOCRACY... No a person who will liberally (Legislate) away this Nation to Our Enemies!
A person who calls their self a Conservative Republican... is SUPPOSED to be someone who believes in Conserving the Strength and Unity of this REPUBLIC!
Democrats and Republicans are POLITICIANS.
We the People are CITIZENS who are SUPPOSED to believe in being allowed the FREE AND LIBERAL USE OF DEOCRACY TO CONSERVE THE STRENGTH AND UNITY OF THIS REPUBLIC...
While we allow Our Public SERVANYS to DICTATE (WTO, NAFTA, CATFA, SAFTA, TPIP, USMCA, and all the Trade Deals that give U.S. to Our Enemies... the Ponzi Scheme called ACA... BY LAW) LAWS THAT ARE FORBIDDEN BY OUR LAW???
--> Article Three, Section3... "Treason shall consist only in LEVYING WAR AGAINST THEM (the U.S.), OR in ADHERING to the Enemy giving them Aid and Comfort"
Joining Our FREE Nation the the 164 Dictator Nations is not Treason?
Legislating Our Jobs to Our Enemies... is not Treason?
Levying War against U.S. with the INVADERS (By Definition) THEY Lead against U.S.... as they gift those invaders our jobs, our homes, our LIVES???
WHERE IS THE DEMOCRACY???
RAISE YOUR HAND... WHICH OF YOU WERE ACTUALLY ALLOWED FREE DEMOCRACY BY YOUR DICTATORS AS THEY TAKE AWAY OUR LIVES... IN FAVOR OF OUR ENEMIES???
ANSWER: NONE OF YOU THE PEOPLE!!!
And now we are all in abject poverty... BY LAW?
and YOU ALL RE-ELECTED THE SAME PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO INFLICT DESTRUCTION OF OUR NATION THROUGH HIGH TREASON... APPROVE OF THAT!!!
Go ahead... keep believing what you want to believe...
While your Nation is take over from the inside... AS KRUSHCHEV PROMISED... WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT!!!
--> ARE YOU READY TO TAKE ARMS TO GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK FROM OUR ENEMY DICTATORS???
NO... YOU CHOOSE... TO BE ENSLAVED TO RULERS!!!
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Most of what The author wrote is true Nixon did take on the MIS/POW as a Political move. How does it make it races? What is the side effects of Nixon's actions, Was that the wives and families of those menMissing continue to receive their full pay and benefits. Technically they weren't dead So the DoD Continue to pay them. I read about families Have either Fall in love ones recovered from KoreaAnd World War II all the time. In 1860, In 1940 The technology for accounting for every missing person just didn't exist. Today we have a lot more ability to account for people, And spend a lot more time and effort trying to trace of a missing person. I don't understand the original question why is this flight considered racist?
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SGT Bill Braniff
I sup[pose you wouldn't try to bargain for your men if they had been captured? Figures
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Take it down and you're the racist. You write under the illusion that the this flag of honour, represents only the Vietnam War. Yes, initially it did, but no more. Korea, Irag, Iran, Afghanistan and yes, even WWII, yes, there are still a number of unseen from that quagmire. The flag honours both the lost of US Prisoners, but also my countrie's admired and prayed for. NO, NEVER take it down not until you are 100% certain that we have fulfilled our responsibilities.
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OK make it black on white - problem with you is you read too much. If you are serving get out. One word that describes you IDIOT. Is that racist.
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
It is by Nazi Law... FASCISM... which the U.S. just voted for, as they re-elected all those who are working with our enemies, to oppress U.S. into abject Poverty, so we can be enslaved to our enemies... China, Russia, Britain, Japan, and the Kings of Saudi Arabia... CROWNS NOW RULE U.S.!!! >(
Major Cities around the U.S. are under assault by their Public Servants, who lead CRIMINALS against their own constituents... and those constituents...
--> VOTED TO RE-ELECT THEOSE SAME FASCIST TRAITORS TO CONTINUE TO ASSAULT THEM FOR 2 MORE YEARS!!!
--> YOU VOTED FOR IT!!!
--> YOU VOTED FOR IT!!!
--> YOU VOTED FOR IT!!!
ROTFLMBO
I shall laugh at all you idiots who vote for your own destruction all the way to my grave!!!!
HEIL BIDEN AND THE FOURTH REICH!!!
Major Cities around the U.S. are under assault by their Public Servants, who lead CRIMINALS against their own constituents... and those constituents...
--> VOTED TO RE-ELECT THEOSE SAME FASCIST TRAITORS TO CONTINUE TO ASSAULT THEM FOR 2 MORE YEARS!!!
--> YOU VOTED FOR IT!!!
--> YOU VOTED FOR IT!!!
--> YOU VOTED FOR IT!!!
ROTFLMBO
I shall laugh at all you idiots who vote for your own destruction all the way to my grave!!!!
HEIL BIDEN AND THE FOURTH REICH!!!
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What idiot wrote the article in the first place? I would love to talk to this person with no Military experience or was he another medical excuse with a mean streak?
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