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I find this to be humorous and also a legitimate issue. Recently I was at large training compound with multiple units there, basically a "mock up" of a FOB. So while in the latrine some soldiers, that must have been in one of the support units there were talking. They were complaining about the soldiers from the infantry unit calling them "POGs." And without missing a beat someone yells from a stall in the same building "Shut up POG." I couldn't help but to laugh.
I usually don't care what you do in the Army as long as you are doing your job and are maintaining your professionalism. These units that we were running into were far below the expectations of maintaining professionislism. There were so many uniform violations our CSM had to wear blinders where ever he walked so he could make it there without correcting every soldier on the way. If he did he would never make where ever he was going. I was just wearing ACUs. It was a bit chilly but I saw a soldier with the ECWCS gen III level 7 jacket, aka the marshmallow jacket. With some sort of toboggan cap that was not anything to do with the army. There was no uniformity and it seemed like no one in their unit cared.
I am not calling anyone a POG in this post. I have our support personnel in our unit that we view as peers. They were harder than anyone in that other unit. They act like soldiers just like we do.
What is your take on this? Do you think they are asking for it by they way they are? Should anyone be called a POG? Should they be expected to maintain the same standard as everyone else in the Army? And what is their CSM doing when this is happening?
I usually don't care what you do in the Army as long as you are doing your job and are maintaining your professionalism. These units that we were running into were far below the expectations of maintaining professionislism. There were so many uniform violations our CSM had to wear blinders where ever he walked so he could make it there without correcting every soldier on the way. If he did he would never make where ever he was going. I was just wearing ACUs. It was a bit chilly but I saw a soldier with the ECWCS gen III level 7 jacket, aka the marshmallow jacket. With some sort of toboggan cap that was not anything to do with the army. There was no uniformity and it seemed like no one in their unit cared.
I am not calling anyone a POG in this post. I have our support personnel in our unit that we view as peers. They were harder than anyone in that other unit. They act like soldiers just like we do.
What is your take on this? Do you think they are asking for it by they way they are? Should anyone be called a POG? Should they be expected to maintain the same standard as everyone else in the Army? And what is their CSM doing when this is happening?
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That maybe true. I tried to be a Signal Officer when I commissioned. The Army and the Infantry Gods didn't agree with me. So I am an 11A.
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As a "POG" and a "leg" myself, I think some people need to quit their crying. It's funny, you're (we're) soft, get over it. In the end, I still left the wire pretty much every day as a crew chief, and I still made it a point to serve the customer (pax and cargo) the absolute best I could because I knew they often had a harder $#!++y job than I was interested in doing. If I could take more passenger I would, I'd another kicker box had to get somewhere to make life better for the grunts, I'd take it. I took who and what I could when I could because I knew one more person on my aircraft was one less person not prone to getting hit with an IED on a convoy. I started recognizing a few of the grunts at certain stops because they would personally hand me letters to send home because they weren't sure if those letters would get home through conventional means. I stuck them in my plate carrier, and when I got back to cushy Bagram, I'd personally take them to the post office, and they'd be their way. They were thankful for that. Then I'd go to my b-hut and enjoy the luxury of my own internet, memory foam layer mattress, and a hot shower. If they want to call me a POG for that, I'll take it, because they are in much crappier circumstances than I've ever been. They're better men and soldiers for it to. So have at it. Let the babies cry. I can take a joke!
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SGT Bryon Sergent
And thank you for your service Chief. Loved you guys when I was 101st. Pilots rock. Just as you said. You brung our chow, our mail, and our bullets. Occasionally gave us a ride to where we needed to go. Thanks from a Grunt! Your are affectionately a POG. Not a REMF!
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Ok, so I served in the Navy, now Army. The "jabbing" goes on in both services. I believe it is healthy and needed to give each other the edge to better themselves. Yes, even the Grunts go at each other to see who is even less amongst themselves. Airborne/legs.
DS's even get on each other. It's highly competitive as is any specialized program.
Navy has many different aspects within their organization that seperates them. Sea Duty/Shore duty. Airdale/ships company. Surface/Sub surface. I'm not even gonna mention the other part of the Navy...Marines. Lol
But its all good humor. Tough love between and in the military is a tradition that goes back to Roman times. It is necessary, and if you get your feelings hurt them you shouldn't have joined.
DS's even get on each other. It's highly competitive as is any specialized program.
Navy has many different aspects within their organization that seperates them. Sea Duty/Shore duty. Airdale/ships company. Surface/Sub surface. I'm not even gonna mention the other part of the Navy...Marines. Lol
But its all good humor. Tough love between and in the military is a tradition that goes back to Roman times. It is necessary, and if you get your feelings hurt them you shouldn't have joined.
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I always thought "POG" was a term of endearment. Never bothered me one bit.
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I am a POG, a REMF, I am in the rear with the gear and I like it!
I was a crew chief for the mighty Chinook (Shithook since were using non-PC terminology) for many years, did many field exercises in the woods with face paint just like a "real" Soldier and landed all over Iraq, now I am a TI / Platoon Sergeant and crew a desk. Sometimes the grunt life looked like fun but then I would always feel better when I realized that I got paid more to stay in the helicopter than those guys did to jump out of it.
Nothing but respect for the those that chose to be a Grunt, Cook, Clerk, Artilery all of us have our role to compliment the others...but I got to go flying.
I was a crew chief for the mighty Chinook (Shithook since were using non-PC terminology) for many years, did many field exercises in the woods with face paint just like a "real" Soldier and landed all over Iraq, now I am a TI / Platoon Sergeant and crew a desk. Sometimes the grunt life looked like fun but then I would always feel better when I realized that I got paid more to stay in the helicopter than those guys did to jump out of it.
Nothing but respect for the those that chose to be a Grunt, Cook, Clerk, Artilery all of us have our role to compliment the others...but I got to go flying.
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I read the article, there is a lot of crying in it. I have very close friends of mine that are POGs who work in my battalion and yes I still tell them they are. Toughen up.... You're a POG, embrace it, get over it or get out.
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You are a man after my own heart. If they don't want to be pogs than they should have went infantry.
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Many don't understand what it takes to keep the point of the spear sharp. I went to war as the V Corps Rear G3 SGM. Yea, as a 11B I was so far behind the front it was pathetic. But I had a job to do and did it to the best of my ability. It takes all kinds to keep the Army in the fight. And don't forget, during the Battle of the Bulge just how many POGs were called up to defend the front. In today's fast moving fronts, terrorists attacks on bases or where ever, every soldier needs to be on their toes. It may just be a POG who stops some bad guy trying to bomb a Base.
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SGT James Colbert
where I work, I have met two of the special operations females, and one isn't more than 5'1 and there bad ass
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It comes down to the same thing as interservice rivalry. We will beat up on each other but when an outsider starts on one, we all merge to address the issue. Once that is done we go back to bickering among ourselves.
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