Posted on May 15, 2018
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Does rank have it's privileges mean power and position can do anything, to include violating policies, rules, regulation and law without consequences; or does it mean the higher the rank the more belief the system has in such service members? Leadership is not about position, power or persistence to damage another due to personal feelings.
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TSgt David Desmarais
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I understand that higher rank has more latitude and is empowered to serve the mission as they see fit without direct supervision. STILL follow regs and if anything, despite having more latitude your decisions are under more scrutiny
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Absolutely; the more latitude a leader is given, the more scrutiny that leader is under. Well said TSgt David Desmarais.
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CWO3 Us Marine
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No special privileges WRT violating policy or law. Unless you're a COL or above there are few perks either. Maybe a reserved parking space at BN CP or similar, but the burden of Command far outweighs things like this. Even writing fitness reports at a Platoon or Company level can be a formidable task, if you appraise accurately and fairly. Luckily, the reporting periods are spread across the calendar for different ranks. I often had 8-10 Sgts, 5-6 SSgts, a Gunny or two and at least one, maybe two MSgts or one MGySgt to report on. The reports are no joke either, because you hold the future of these Marines and the Corps in your hand. Besides that, you have requirements for periodic and documented counselling so there are no surprises when they sign their report. This is just a small slice of the responsibilities of BN COs or higher. I found in research recently that the new USMC fitness report form is 6 pages long as opposed to the double-sided one page report of the past. It's just one example, but added to the daily administration of training, organizing, and equipping your unit for deployment, it all adds up. If anything, the higher the rank, the greater the responsibility. If you take your job seriously that is.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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However CWO3 (Join to see); you will agree that the greater the rank and the position means the greater the responsibility to toe the line on laws, rules and regulations. A CO cannot be ignorant of the law. Right Chief?
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - No doubt. Ignorance is no excuse under the law either.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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I've always used it more as a punch line than taken it literally. Yes the higher you go the more perks you get, hence the saying. That does not mean that those privileges are there to be abused - though some may do so. I first used that phrase when I took company command and got my own office. I used to call people in just so I could throw them out, citing RHIP. If anything my rank gave me the privilege of commanding some fine troops.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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I am sure you led your troops with compassion MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca and never reported your troops AWOL when they were sick in quarters with doctor's recommendation?

Is a troop AWOL if he is sick in quarters and he/she has notified superiors and the S-1 properly, and the troop works and lives on the same base as his/her outfit?
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - Fortunately my troops had the same respect for me that I did for them so there was no behind the scenes shenanigans. I knew one way or the other what they were up to and took action appropriately. "The Book," is a guide, not something to throw at people, especially your own, like a hand grenade.
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SSG Ken Steinhoff
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Side note what I hate is when the spouse wears their rank then you will see some time how bad it is
One day my unit go called in and I stop to pick up some donuts for my guys. And there was a E
One star Generals wife Trying to push her way to the front of the line I was just about to get my order and she Reyes to push her way past me. I stayed “Excuse me” and she Said “I am General so and so wife let me by” and I replied with “Do You know who I am?” And she said “No” so I said “Good by” and walked out with my order
It is all part of life. Just remember not to be a Jerk when you get the rank
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LtCol George Carlson
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Exactly the opposite! While rank does have privileges, violation of rules, policies, regulation or law is NOT one of them. In fact, good leaders set the example. A story from long ago and far away. I was XO of an admin company and lived about 35 miles away. This is back when alarm clocks ran on plug-power and we had a power outage overnight. When my alarm went off it was about an hour after when it should have. I called the company office to speak to the CO but he wasn't aboard yet. I asked the Duty NCO to pass the word to the CO that I would be about 35 minutes "late." When I arrived, the 1st Sgt was storming around the duty desk with smoke coming out of his ears! It took a while to calm him down enough for him to show me the Duty NCO Log entry that fired him off. It read, "0720, Capt Carlson (XO) called and stated a power outage at his quarters overnight meant he would be about 35 minutes late. He asked that I advise the CO. I granted the normal 24-hour extension of liberty." Meanwhile the 1st Sgt kept muttering, "He never should have made an entry about an officer, certainly not the XO." I said to him, "OK, 1st Sgt, the 24-hour extension comment is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but here's my take on this. I'm glad it's there in the Duty NCO Log. You and I both know that every junior Marine who stands Assistant Duty NCO has nothing to do from about 0100 to 0500 so they read the log book to stay awake. That entry says two things that are really important. First, it says that liberty regulations apply to everyone in this company from the CO and XO on down. Second, it says that when Maj Hicks (the CO) says that if anyone calls in before liberty expires, the Duty NCO has full authority from him to grant a 24-hour extension, no questions asked, he means it -- even when it's the XO calling in." The 1st Sgt said he was just concerned that it was embarrassing for an officer to be noted that way in the log book. I replied that not only was I NOT embarrassed, I was happy to have an entry that said I was just as much bound by regulation and policy as any other Marine in the company.
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SGT Philip Roncari
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Rank does have its privileges but I found it comes at a very high cost,my LT in Vietnam was a fine example of this because of his leadership and professionalism in the field, this was sorely missed after his six month field tour ended,his replacements were capable but not outstanding ,as for a non combat situations most of the officers I served under had their own agenda some good some bad,that I think you could apply to most circumstances .
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