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Real ID Act - Now we have to have a passport to go from state to state

http://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
You do not need ID to travel "within" the US.

To board "Federally Regulated Transportation" (such as aircraft), you will need Identification that conforms to this standard.

The Passport remains an optional form of ID for travel outside the US.
SGM Erik Marquez
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - Of course not, and they can not make a US citizen purchase a unwanted product from a third party either.. oh wait.... they did.
Many things 20 years ago we said "they cant" they are.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
It's only recently common parlance. And yes, some states are bounded by our national borders on some of their boundary.

It's more of a curiosity to me. You really only started hearing "state border" in the mid to late 70s. And it was mainly weathermen on TV. My stepfather hated it and wrote a letter, back in the old days, to every station he heard it on. Since then it has come into common usage.

Being me, I looked at US Code, and was unable to find guidance. Most US Code uses state line, until you get to more recent stuff, and then it has more to do with interstate transportation of specific goods and services.
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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SGM Erik Marquez Yes, and we have watched that Law being challenged in every fashion imaginable from every angle. How long do you thing it will really survive? It's a poorly made tapestry and someone just needs to find the correct loose string and the entire thing unravels.

Unfortunately, the People didn't fight back hard enough when we allowed "Administrative Searches" at airports.... and now we have the TSA who has gone far beyond the scope of the original SCOTUS ruling. When, not If, the TSA is challenged again at SCOTUS level, we will see lots of changes.
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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MAJ (Join to see) I understand where you are coming from, sir, but "border" is not incorrect when referring to a boundary, while line is the designation of said boundary or border. They are rough synonyms. US Code has to be precise when speaking about the US as a whole. If we were to go from macro to micro, and look at State codes, they would likely use similar verbiages and refer to State Borders, and County Lines, much like US Borders, and State Lines. "Administrative" is a matter of perspective, so to speak.
SGT Ben Keen
This is something that has been in the works for some time. It is not a State-to-State passport! It's simply a card that will be issued to help state and federal agencies in ensuring that people have the right ID with them to access certain things.
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Yea I know since 2005 when it started I am all for more security just tired of paying for more and more fees and just have to have a wallet for IDs Passport Card, VA ID, DL, CCW, CAC card, the New DD-214 ID Card, why can't we just have one ID with all the info on it
SGT Ben Keen
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SPC Brandon Boller - One ID card would be nice but this is far from an interstate passport as you seem to be suggesting.
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The problem with the whole program is that in many states, you do not need to present an actual ID to get a drivers license, only proof of residency such as a rental agreement or utilities bill with your name and address on it.
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Yea I heard about California is doing that
SGT Dave Tracy
Without putting a value judgment on Real ID itself, let me say this; being from Minnesota, it's been an issue as of late. I hadn't heard much about it in 2009 as I was on Active Duty, when, in a near unanimous vote, a bipartisan(!) state legislature and governor gave the proverbial "middle finger" to Real ID, due to privacy and cost concerns. Now, that bipartisanship has returned to the normal partisan blame-game complete with the local media rebuking our elected officials for "failing" to "fix this" now that the consequences are about to roll in.

I guess its hard for elected representatives to stand on principle when it's so easy to fold like a house of cards once things get uncomfortable!

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