Posted on Jul 12, 2015
Recent study finds that more guns does not lead to less crime. What are your thoughts on the issue?
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A high-profile shooting, like the June 17 crime that left dead nine members of a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, is typically followed by calls for greater gun control, along with counter arguments that the best way to stop gun crimes is with more guns.
"The one thing that would have at least ameliorated the horrible situation in Charleston would have been that if somebody in that prayer meeting had a conceal carry or there had been either an off-duty policeman or an on-duty policeman, somebody with the legal authority to carry a firearm and could have stopped the shooter," presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said in a Fox News interview on June 19.
A new study, however, throws cold water on the idea that a well-armed populace deters criminals or prevents murders. Instead, higher ownership of guns in a state is linked to more firearm robberies, more firearm assaults and more homicide in general.
"We found no support for the hypothesis that owning more guns leads to a drop or a reduction in violent crime," said study researcher Michael Monuteaux, an epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School. "Instead, we found the opposite."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/guns-dont-deter-crime-study-finds/ar-AAcDdis
"The one thing that would have at least ameliorated the horrible situation in Charleston would have been that if somebody in that prayer meeting had a conceal carry or there had been either an off-duty policeman or an on-duty policeman, somebody with the legal authority to carry a firearm and could have stopped the shooter," presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said in a Fox News interview on June 19.
A new study, however, throws cold water on the idea that a well-armed populace deters criminals or prevents murders. Instead, higher ownership of guns in a state is linked to more firearm robberies, more firearm assaults and more homicide in general.
"We found no support for the hypothesis that owning more guns leads to a drop or a reduction in violent crime," said study researcher Michael Monuteaux, an epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School. "Instead, we found the opposite."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/guns-dont-deter-crime-study-finds/ar-AAcDdis
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I do not believe this new study! I think the liberal democrats want to disarm the law abiding Americans.
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SPC Kent Laughlin
much like tyrants from the beginning of time ... worse of course after we shifted from knives, sharpened sticks , bow and arrows, and fancy rocks attached to sticks ...
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People lie. proven facts don't. People make up facts or distort facts to support what hey want to believe.If you are looking for the truth or facts this is he wrong place. Because all you will get here is options. the old saying onions are like assholes everyone has one.
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From 1999, and over the subsequent 15 years, the correlation between gun manufacture and the gun homicide rate had a correlation of 75% (Pierson's "R" of .746). There were 15 data points. The P-number is less than 0.2% (that's two-tenths of one percent).
Oh, and the correlation is negative.
Data sources: Gun Manufacture - 2015 Report - Firearms Commerce in the United States Annual Statistical Update 2015
Homicide rates: CDC
Oh, and the correlation is negative.
Data sources: Gun Manufacture - 2015 Report - Firearms Commerce in the United States Annual Statistical Update 2015
Homicide rates: CDC
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SPC Kent Laughlin
the miscreants in the media have created a super load of poorly educated frightened children and adults as well sir. They have conditioned the mentally challenged by using homemade statistics as well.. For example when I have read about gun deaths on an annual basis I have to read the entire report as the numbers are also derived and include shootings involving police officers, citizens protecting them selves, and of course the unfortunate circumstance of suicide.. Also when you remove the numbers of murders not related to the above stated causes in about 15 cesspools from east to west it has the USA well below the most deaths due to murder, but they do not want to admit failure ...
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In the current political climate, and with the rapid deterioration of Society, my family is well armed, and know how to use lethal force. We hope it doesn't come to it, but, if it does, we are ready.
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Many years ago, a GA. county judge, issued an order, that all residents should own a weapon. This resulted in O crime. Criminals are not stupid.
Everyone living in Switzerland has a weapon, which results in the lowest crime rate in Europe.
You can't trust all studies..
Everyone living in Switzerland has a weapon, which results in the lowest crime rate in Europe.
You can't trust all studies..
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I've owned and used firearms from My pre teen years to the current time and have NEVER had any problem or unlawful act or even and accidental discharge from a firearm ever ! I also carried a firearm for over 40 years in both Military and civilian Law Enforcement duties. No Member of My family has ever had an issue either and my family has been here in Massachusetts from 1637 to the present. I do have one family member with mental health issues, He doesn't and can't have a firearm and He shouldn't and I don't have a problem with that. We do have laws that need enforcement including gun laws as they relate to criminals or people with actual mental health issues which is a pretty small percentage of a massive population. Having a failure by the courts and prosecutors to uphold those existing laws against people have mental health issues and criminal Histories is where the problem lays. Over and over again I have seen this government failure to enforce current laws and protect the rest of us !
I may point out also three of My relatives, marched with the Minutemen on April 19th 1775 to battle the regular British Troops at Old North Bridge, Concord, Massachusetts when they were attempting to seize guns, power and ammunition from the colonist, the government attempt did NOT succeed as citizens with guns stood up to them and prevented that. NEVER throughout History has allowing that sort of conduct from the Government ever had good results and was always about complete government control of ALL members of the population.
I may point out also three of My relatives, marched with the Minutemen on April 19th 1775 to battle the regular British Troops at Old North Bridge, Concord, Massachusetts when they were attempting to seize guns, power and ammunition from the colonist, the government attempt did NOT succeed as citizens with guns stood up to them and prevented that. NEVER throughout History has allowing that sort of conduct from the Government ever had good results and was always about complete government control of ALL members of the population.
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Check where the "study" came from. I'm betting it wasn't from the federal government. All of their studies who different. The study discussed her was probably from some dumbass leftist commie think tank.
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SPC Matt Ovaska
PO3 James Polichak - Most folks would guess why the bullet hole were there. My tax dollars paid for the arrows.
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Recent studies have shown that guns are a tool for committing crimes. People have been killing each other for a long time. Even written in the Bible. Guns are the weapon of this century. They will become obsolete when a more destructive way of killing becomes available. Then we will have the same argument but with a different tool.
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TSgt William Cramer
But a true firearms shooter does not need 15+ round clips. Only those that have no skill require such to commit their crimes. Take away that option and you lessen the casualty rate for when they go off the deep end. As I stated here earlier, our government should entertain a way to keep a well armed militia by authorizing certain individuals to be part of such shooting clubs keeping up their skillset on military grade weapons and then lock them in an armory. That is just one way that I see to keep our second amendment and a well armed militia at the same time. Keep the multi-round capacity firearms out of the hands of the crazy. Just my thoughts...
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SPC Matt Ovaska
A judge in a Ga. county ordered everyone to own a gun. The crime rate in that county went to zero. Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe because the citizens all have guns
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First of all, Second Amendment guarantee us the right to bare arm, but baring arm does not mean gun alone. Prior to musket, an armed individual is sword, axe, spear, knife, club, etc. In olden day Japan, there was a policy that only a service to a lord samurai can carry katana, but that did not solve their problems. There were more types of weapons created replacing the katana. There were even more types of weapons created in China.
In Uvalde, Texas, school shooting, there were bunch of law enforcement and lots of ‘good guy with guns’ and that still could not prevent children being shot in cold blood while they were on the other side of the door.
If a bystander has a gun during active shooting, that person could be mistaken for the shooter by the law enforcement and killed.
Don’t get me wrong, I love guns, but for me to have all kind of guns readily available for the masses is not a good thing. Great power comes great responsibility. Any one can bare arm, but not everyone should easily have a gun or rifle like AR-15. An individual should have to earn the right to own a rifle. Easier if it is a handgun.
So far AR-15 style rifle were used in mass-shooting, and a handgun in dispute. Can’t we all just go back to Kungfu or karate, or best a fist fight like the olden days in the Bronx?
In Uvalde, Texas, school shooting, there were bunch of law enforcement and lots of ‘good guy with guns’ and that still could not prevent children being shot in cold blood while they were on the other side of the door.
If a bystander has a gun during active shooting, that person could be mistaken for the shooter by the law enforcement and killed.
Don’t get me wrong, I love guns, but for me to have all kind of guns readily available for the masses is not a good thing. Great power comes great responsibility. Any one can bare arm, but not everyone should easily have a gun or rifle like AR-15. An individual should have to earn the right to own a rifle. Easier if it is a handgun.
So far AR-15 style rifle were used in mass-shooting, and a handgun in dispute. Can’t we all just go back to Kungfu or karate, or best a fist fight like the olden days in the Bronx?
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My first question is of course, which new study?
There is no evidence to support the hypothesis that a citizenry in possession of lawfully owned firearms necessarily increases the frequency of gun related violence. Anything emanating from the hollowed halls of East Coast Progressiveness needs to be viewed with mush more than a single grain of salt.
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0119.htm
There is no evidence to support the hypothesis that a citizenry in possession of lawfully owned firearms necessarily increases the frequency of gun related violence. Anything emanating from the hollowed halls of East Coast Progressiveness needs to be viewed with mush more than a single grain of salt.
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0119.htm
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