Posted on Nov 1, 2014
Senator Questions System Allowing 'Triple Dipping' Veterans
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It's all legal, and if this is something about the nations budget crisis, you would think a US senator would find something else to try and argue....We fight for this country, and of all the dangerous professions, look at the pay! its not that great, why try and question the system?
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I'm a triple dipper. I get a piddly retirement from the Army because the VA pays me at 100% disability. I get social security because I worked my tush off since the day I graduated high school and paid my taxes and worked here legally. If they think the "millions" I make is worth the pain and scars and surgeries, I will gladly pass my fortune on to them.
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SSG Ronald Rollins
Well I finally got my SSDI. It was a real fight. Had to go to a hearing and the judge actually asked if I felt I deserved it as I am retired and getting disability. I just stared at him. My Lawyer, who was very good, objected very fast. I got the approval letter about 3 weeks later.
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SFC Mark Merino I wonder why they don't talk more about reduction on benefits and pay of the Congressmen/women. I thought they believe in the trickle down system and/or lead by example? Maybe not.
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I am 100% T&P. I will trade my "retirement plan" for any Congressperson's "retirement plan" any time they are ready to make the change.
Consider this: How many terms do they have to serve to retire?
Consider this: How many terms do they have to serve to retire?
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I always get annoyed when these people suggest this. Everyone double dips. What is different than a civilian who went to work for a company like GM and gets a big pension after they retire and still get to get Social Security, etc. Plus out of all the public servants who can double dip the most are police and fire. You can be a cop for 20 years in one department and retire get a pension while joining another department. In fact the former police chief in my town is getting almost a 200K pension, but was hired on as consultant adviser for another 10k a month salary. No one ever suggest they should have to take a cut, because they have their union reps.
It doesn't surprise me though. It seems as time goes on we no longer have friends on either side of the aisle.
It doesn't surprise me though. It seems as time goes on we no longer have friends on either side of the aisle.
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That's becuase they know they can spin it to blame it on the Democrats...for the record I am Independant...
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MSgt Allan Folsom Yup I seem to notice that. In fact I remember in 06 or 07 I think, congress voted a 3% raise and the Bush administration were advocating a lower cost of living adjustment.
I am also no longer a party follower. I find the candidate who I feel is going to do the least damage and that is who I vote for and hope it is not an error. Sometime I feel no matter what I vote for is a lose lose situation.
I am also no longer a party follower. I find the candidate who I feel is going to do the least damage and that is who I vote for and hope it is not an error. Sometime I feel no matter what I vote for is a lose lose situation.
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SFC Joey Jimenez
While voting yesterday I was thinking the same thing Maj Stanton. I question, did I vote for the right person?
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I agree, SPC(P) (Join to see). And Senator Coburn is a Republican. Those men and women -- the veterans -- earned every penny of the money they're receiving. Especially the disabled vets. "Going after" those folks gets a big thumbs-down in my book.
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SFC Joey Jimenez
Did anyone vote this fool OUT? People get so wrapped up around Republican and Democrat and vote for their particular party not thinking about themselves. Yeah it may be important to vote for your party, but I don't agree voting for people trying to screw us Veterans.
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SFC Joey Jimenez, Coburn retired prior to the end of his current 6 year term. In a special election to replace him, James Lankford defeated Connie Johnson last night, which allowed the Republicans to fully retain Oklahomoa as well as retaining a Senate seat for the Republicans.
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Coburn is from my home state, sadly to say. I'm glad he retired this year. Maybe we should look at his retirement to save some money.
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The thing is, for most retirees, the retirement isn't enough to live on so they continue to work after retirement.
If a retiree is disabled to the point that they are unable to work, why shouldn't they be able to receive disability on top of retirement?
If a retiree is disabled to the point that they are unable to work, why shouldn't they be able to receive disability on top of retirement?
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SFC Joey Jimenez
As a triple dipper imagine how much money we are losing per year by not being able to work? There are so many jobs out paying big money, unfortunately I will never be able to chase it. We get set amounts and that is it.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
I came back from Iraq in 2004 with a collapsed disk in my back and my left shoulder messed up. Being reserve, I was discharged and back to civilian work. I'm a farrier shoeing horses. I soon found I was not able to do what I did before. Has cut my productivity in half. Yes I get a token medial disability, but do you think it makes up for my lost income? Being Reserve I'll get to draw my retirement at 60, but I was also planning on being able to fully work longer. So I'm in that little area of will I be able to afford my retirement days? Just waiting for these guys to take some more away.
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SSG Ronald Rollins
I know how you feel SFC Joey Jimenez!! I would love to work but can't!! And no SGM Dawson it does not make up for what you have lost. It is not fair what we are asked to do then get screwed over by those who should take care of us.
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As opposed to what these guys make for life in one dipping. F--king politicians, can't police themselves so they try to screw everyone else!
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The annual salary of each senator, as of 2013, is $174,000 a year. They can seriously talk about something else besides cutting our benefits.
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Speaker of the House $223,500 per annum
Majority and Minority Leaders $193,400 per annum
All other Representatives (including Delegates and Resident Commissioner From Puerto Rico) $174,000 per annum
Chief Administrative Officer $172,500 per annum
Clerk of the House $172,500 per annum
Sergeant at Arms $172,500 per annum
Chaplain $172,500 per annum
Legislative Counsel $172,500 per annum
Law Revision Counsel $172,500 per annum
Parliamentarian $172,500 per annum
Inspector General $172,500 per annum
Director, Interparliamentary Affairs $172,500 per annum
General Counsel to the House $172,500 per annum
Majority and Minority Leaders $193,400 per annum
All other Representatives (including Delegates and Resident Commissioner From Puerto Rico) $174,000 per annum
Chief Administrative Officer $172,500 per annum
Clerk of the House $172,500 per annum
Sergeant at Arms $172,500 per annum
Chaplain $172,500 per annum
Legislative Counsel $172,500 per annum
Law Revision Counsel $172,500 per annum
Parliamentarian $172,500 per annum
Inspector General $172,500 per annum
Director, Interparliamentary Affairs $172,500 per annum
General Counsel to the House $172,500 per annum
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SFC Joey Jimenez
Seriously and they want to screw with the few bucks I get in comparison...each dollar earned with blood, sweat and tears.
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1. It is legal. 2. They earned it. 3. It is such a small percentage of veterans. 4. Who cares. 5. Mr. Senator glad your retiring. Enjoy your pension.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
Let's not forget the consulting gig he'll be getting from the fed.gov and his Social Security....
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This really burns my biscuits!
Congress needs to quit pointing their fingers at everyone else. They should cut their pay, minimum wage or better yet paid a certain amount per pieces of legislation passed, no more 1st class flight, pay for their own healthare (Obamacare), no free food, drive themselves to work & official functions, etc., etc., etc.
Did he ever serve?
Congress needs to quit pointing their fingers at everyone else. They should cut their pay, minimum wage or better yet paid a certain amount per pieces of legislation passed, no more 1st class flight, pay for their own healthare (Obamacare), no free food, drive themselves to work & official functions, etc., etc., etc.
Did he ever serve?
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Triple dipping implies that the pay and benefits you are receiving were not properly earned. We pay into Social Security, we receive a retirement that requires at least 20 years of service to earn it, and disability benefits are also earned through service. Also, you can't receive VA disability and retirement at the same time unless you have a 50% rating or above.
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