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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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We are a republic governed by laws. The regulations in the military are our laws we chose to live by and support. If we do not follow them, something as simple as saluting because of one grade difference, then LTC's don't need to salute COL's. After all, we reference them both as COL when in discussion. I suppose we can carry this over to the NCO Corps while we are at it, one grade difference doesn't need to show respect to the senior member. Under this concept we just tare down the discipline of the military then call the POTUS to let him know we are going to pull back from all missions and sit on the couch drinking beer.
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If you earned rank you are entitled to the respect that rank commands. Period. It's also important to tradition and so that 2LT learns chain of command. So, yes. He should give the man the respect he deserves and maintain our etiquette and protocol.
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If you have to ask you obviously do not care about respect or regulations. Any junior officer regardless of position must salute a higher ranking officer. That’s like saying a person who makes O-3 earlier than another LT who has been in longer does not have to salute the new O-3. If you are an O-1 and happen to be in a position of a Commander and you see an O-2 your arm better be on the move!
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The answer Is in the Question AR-600-25. A Salute is a show of Respect. We have a generation that have Zero Respect for anything so unless one enforces Saluting it will become a thing of the past. You Salute to show respect for the Rank not the Person.
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I believe the original question was: "Should a 2nd Lt salute a 1st Lt.? If the 2nd and 1st lt's overlook the fact the regulations require such an acknowledgment. Then by what is authority do such officer's have to correct an enlist for not saluting them? Especially if such a requalation is abused on one level but enforced on those who have no power to protest such an abuse of power. Be honest! I believe every officer who has commented on this post will defend the no salute policy for Lt,s, but, will without mercy demand saluates from enlist all the time every time.
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I think if you earned rank you are entitled to the respect that rank commands. It's also important to tradition and so that 2LT learns chain of command. So, yes. He should give the man the respect he deserves and maintain our etiquette and protocol.
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guess my response is...why is this a question? juniors salute seniors. what's not to understand.
over the course of 20 years have had to deal with seniors who demonstrated they did not deserve the respect the uniform demanded. you salute the uniform if not the person.
in addition it's up to you to respectfully teach that person how to do better. When it comes to O-1 and 2's, they don't know what they don't know. if they haven't improved by the time they make O-3, you're partly responsible
over the course of 20 years have had to deal with seniors who demonstrated they did not deserve the respect the uniform demanded. you salute the uniform if not the person.
in addition it's up to you to respectfully teach that person how to do better. When it comes to O-1 and 2's, they don't know what they don't know. if they haven't improved by the time they make O-3, you're partly responsible
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I don't know why this is even being asked. A 1st Lt is senior to a 2nd Lt and the 2nd Lt should render a salute to any officer senior to them and hold that salute until it's properly returned. Period.
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The recognition of rank has always been a tradition. Some officers I have seen, only salute in certain ceremonies or when outside.
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