Should a 2LT salute a 1LT?

MAJ, I have read a lot of your responses on this topic, and many many others. I believe you are the only person here that thinks this way. Not only is it a double standard, it sets a bad example for the young enlisted ranks. It's not an Army thing, its a service thing. You are held to the same rules and regs like everyone else. When Generals here on Rally point are saying that 2lts salute 1LTs, that trumps. Sorry but O1 is out ranked by O2... doesn't matter if by a day or 10 years.

Check my profile and correct yourself. I have read many of the responses. You are cherry picking regs. Stating AR 600-20 doesn't justify. You've been ask by others to cite the source in further detail. <br>

When you state this topic doesn't apply to Marines, I replied to check my profile since I served in 2 branches. Like I said before, cherry picking.

My attitude is only disrespectful in the fact that an general order is being overlooked and trying to be justified. There is in fact a regulatory requirement that a junior officer salutes a superior one. You learned it in boot camp.  So in response, you sir are the one that is out of line. And someone who holds a billet of leadership and responsibility encompassing the actions of their servicemen and how they carry themselves to the standards brought down before you were even born should know better than to deviate and pass it as doctrine. Especially on a post that makes the news regularly about servicemen taking actions into their own hands, further instills my believe that there is a serious lack of leadership at Fort Hood in the mental well being of their servicemen.  Sir.

First, allow me to correct you on your error streak of military knowledge Sir. I am neither young, nor have I been an NCO since 2009, putting me in the SNCO rank and promoting to E7 at my next promotion board with an impeccable SRB with zero negative remarks in 11 years for a grunt. It is simple things like your failure to address me by my correct non-commission status that helps your opinion on saluting hold zero weight. I appreciate the perusal of my profile before you responded, as to see exactly who you were responding to and what experience I may or may not have to support my remarks. My post, being correct in the fact that a lower rank salutes a higher one seems to be "drivel" though. I understand that you choose to not recognize this simple rule, which is fine. The issue I now have with you is that you have headed down this opinion road as if it were fact and are sticking to your guns. This in "my" opinion does show poor leadership. Especially from an officer. Officers of all people should know when to stop beating a dead horse and to never even take a swing if they are not 100% sure they are correct. Customs and courtesies are one side and personal discretion on how to carry those out are another. But do not mistake it for across the board fact. Am I completely familiar with Army customs and courtesies? No. But what I do have is the ability to reference them before opening my mouth and giving the answer. It was in fact, an Army officer who had posed the question but was not specific as to what branch. One thing that I can thank the Marine Corps for is that we have an undeniable track record in taking our customs and courtesies seriously. I can think of 100 incidences where I've seen Army personnel violating doctrine to 1 Marine doing the same. We hold ourselves to a much higher standard. I can go outside any Army base at almost any daytime hour and find a soldier drinking in uniform at any establishment that serves food and alcohol. Consistently doing something different with there uniform (ball cap, PT shoes, etc.) or even wearing it on there own to places like Disneyland where it is neither a command function or a duty station. My favorite has to be at the airport so they can get an upgrade when obviously not on any type of orders.

And also per black and white, across the board correction and input on other branches customs and courtesies is a go due to the fact that any given promotion warrant states that "any lesser rank" should render obedience. There is no specification as to what branch. I can thank my highly decorated and respected SgtMaj for pointing that out to us many years ago in reference to Army soldiers being asshats on base in Kuwait. The warrant verbage pretty much covers the 1st and 2nd LT portion as well as a Marine correcting a a soldier who is out of line with something and vice versa.

In conclusion, personal discretion to the saluting order is not the "lack of leadership" I am referring to. I am specifically referring to the mindset that you have as a mid-grade officer and how you choose to dictate these variations as arrogant fact. This is one factor that contributes to future soldiers straying further and further from the correct path. You Sir may require a salute from the enlisted, but I am in serious question as to how much respect you receive willingly.

Now is where I will be blatantly disrespectful. You Sir are most likely a desk jockey ribbon chaser who gets off on telling people to be silent so you can get "your" opinion across. This is the worst type of officer in my opinion. One that refuses to take the advise of his senior enlisted because he has a "better" way. I may have missed it, but all of your enlisted Army brethren seem to disagree with your opinion on this thread. You are a tool for action who is required to take into consideration the advice of his senior enlisted personnel who have it in their promotion warrants to guide their officers in the right direction. Come down off your horse and take the look of shock off your face that someone told you what was what and didn't just say Yes Sir and bow down to your "drivel". And I'm just guessing on the description because I no longer find you professional enough to pay you the courtesy of looking at your page to confirm my suspicions.

And if your ideology is one that is shared, then yes, I will continue to believe that leadership is lacking due to what I see about your base regularly on the news.

Private, what are you talking about?  Yes, we should all respect fellow warriors, regardless or rank, but when it comes to saluting there are standards and regulations that cover when it is done.

Hey Craig so how have you been?? I'm on facebook too so we need to set up a meet some day.

Charles, you are absolutely correct.  A lower rank salutes the higher rank, regardless of how close together they are.  I always saluted every officer I saw, but as an enlisted soldier, that was a no brainer.  However, in a combat zone, all officers I served with did not want to be saluted, unless in a secure area for obvious reasons.  We did have a 2nd Lt. who was new in country and demanded we salute him.  The little prick got his way, gladly I might add, until a Major called us down for saluting him.  We told the Major the young LT demanded we salute him.  With a wry smile, he said he would address that issue.  After being read the riot act my the Major, young LT came to us and apologized for being a prick.  He turned out to be a good officer, but it took some training to get him up to speed.  I am assuming he survived since I have never seen his name on the Wall.