Posted on Nov 3, 2013
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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?

"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM
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Here's my old retired SFC 2 cents worth ( well, maybe just barely 1 cent if that even)... Salute. I see it as first off a greeting between warriors who share the same perils. Then as the respect for rank (the junior should initiate the salute) or the flag or whatever. Personally, (and I don't care what the "regs" say) if I want to throw a salute on someone, I will. So WHY is this an issue? Don't people have more important things to do that grouse about an whether an old CSM should salute a fresh "butter bar"? Come on... Give the blasted salute and go on about your business! If this is all you have to worry about, you have way too much free time on your hands.

On another note, if you are in a combat zone and you really don't like someone... start saluting them...
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Col Val Finnell, MD, MPH
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As an old Seargeant I knew once said, “Rank among lieutenants is like virtue among whores.”
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SSG Steven Kelley
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There should not be a discussion. If LTs’ choose not to render proper respect because they view themselves brothers/ sisters in rank, then they are insufficient in their training and going without correction should be unheard of. Through all the years I served, I had a few Lts’ that knowingly failed to return a salute to myself or another Soldier, I can assure you, they properly learned to respectfully return honors. Comparatively a Corporal and Specialist are the same grade but; not the same rank. A Specialist who fails to render proper courtesy to an NCO because they are the same grade should not be accepted either. It should not be just because it’s a regulation, I never saluted an commissioned or warrant officer because of their rank, it is a sign of mutual respect, any Soldier who fails to render and return a proper salute disrespects themselves. In combat, you can not expect anyone to follow someone they can’t respect.
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Sgt Phil Quintana
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In the Marine Corps tradition is king. Our officers always salute the higher rank. Our NCOs and Staff NCOs refer to each other by rank in front of jr enlisted. Rank in the Marine Corps means something. Our traditions mean something.
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SrA Paul Williams
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You clearly need help to learn why the salute is important and if you are truly this daft you need help in learning when to and when not to render the salute as well. Where did you get your degree from? No, I mean really. Because if you are having this much issue with understanding the customs and curtesy of rendering a salute you need to have your bars taken and you need to be tested to make sure that you really are Officer material.
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SPC Todd Homman
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YES, it is about respect, honor and tradition. 1st LT out ranks and 2nd, period!
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SSgt Elihu Lowery
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The simple answer is yes the junior Officer still should salute a higher ranking Officer even if they are only 1 Grade higher. I'm sure you see Captains salute Majors and they are just grade different.
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Sgt Ray Shackelford
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There is a difference and it should be recognized and respected.
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1LT Military Police
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Yes
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CSM David Porterfield
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Many years back I heard this "Rank amongst Lieutenants is like virtue amongst whores"
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