Posted on May 28, 2014
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Should army and marines consolidate
Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.

PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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A1C Stanley Kolakowski
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Objectively, maybe. I could see a situation where the Marine Corps is converted to being a "Special Forces" type thing for the Army instead of being the "Ground branch" of the Navy.
However, do you think that:

1. Aren't the Marines MP division effectively the police for the Navy?
2. How's CAP going to work, Navy has rights to fly fixed wing aircraft over land within X miles of shore, while Army is prohibited from having fixed wing aircraft.
3. How would having Large Army Divisions being effectively "permanently" under the command of the Navy work?
4. How would the whole administration thing work? I mean, right now, a lot of the Marines paperwork is pushed by Navy Administrators, how different would it be if the Army suddenly had to push that amount of paperwork? Especially if the Army had to install administrative sub-divisions on Naval bases with significant Marine presence...

And don't the Army and Marines share a significant portion of their ground based weaponry already (the other bit of logistics that needs to be considered for Army/Marine integration) and continuing this pattern be as efficient as before.
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LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
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The consolidation issue has been raised before. and shot down. The Army has a different mission and make up than the Marines Corps.While the Army is great for moving slowly when they are setting up an occupation force. While Marines move quickly from ship to shore with the verticle envelopement both different tactics each branch having specializedntactics.
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SFC Keith Kingsley
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The U S Army is the biggest wast of money then any other branch. Why should we have three time more equipment than we use.. The Army has excess equipment stashed all around the world. Look at Iraq Billions of equipment left there so out enemies can now use it against us.
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SGT Philip Popa
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Don't you look at history? We have left equipment behind in every conflict we have ever been a part of. Why is it you have to reach E-7 to realize this? Not only have we left equipment but we go back and rebuild everything that needs fixed whether we destroy it or not. This is nothing new nor does it address the question.
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SGT Philip Popa
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I don't think that either branches could deal with the other. It is too different worlds and the clash would create more damage than it would do good.
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1st Lt Paul Robertson
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Marine Corps is the World's largest special forces. Let's keep 'em.
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SPC Charles Brown
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Just to stir the pot a little I have a couple of questions. Which banner would both services be under? Army or Navy or perhaps a new one?
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That's like asking if the air force and navy should be consolidated because both fly combat sorties. That being said it might not be a bad idea to get rid of the Army completely and beef up the Corps.
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Sgt Alex Clarke
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Read the book titled, "First to Fight" by Victor H. Krulak and you will be shown why the Corps will never be merged with any other service, EVER. If anything, the Corps will outlast any other United States Military Service and, perhaps even the country itself.

Does the Marine Corps do anything the other services can't do?

Short answer: NO.

Oh sure, Marines will tell you that they are tailored toward rapid deployment and conflict resolution or amphibious assault, but the truth is, the Marine Corps exists for only ONE reason: Money.

The Marine Corps solidified its position long ago, when it was created as a Navy Military Police force (entirely seperate from the Navy for the express purpose of being able to police Naval personnel without reporting to any of them, regardless of rank structure), by adapting to new situations faster than the government required and in a less expensive way than any other service. That characteristic is the reason the Corps is still around. There have been, and continue to be, numerous occasions where people try to show that the Marine Corps need not exist because they do nothing which is unique.

The problem is that every time a naysayer spouts off at the mouth about the Corps, they are proven wrong by the Marine Corps budget. No other service can say they can do everything the Corps does at the price the Corps charges for its services.

Simply put: we do it cheaper and more effectively than anybody else. Except the Navy, we love their ships.
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Sgt S.P. Woodke
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the marines are the first respondents... they are trained much more aggressively and are most suited mentally AND physically for battle time situations...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_TlXlo1YUQ

ENOUGH SAID...
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Sgt S.P. Woodke
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SGT Mike Marino
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alot of dubing Sgt. woodke, and it was made for You tube video. Dubed and altered. I could assure you this isn't how the Army Basic is. When the drill instructor was speaking to tht female that was going to the phone. That scene wasn't basic training and it wasnt that drill voice it was dubed. ... I dont know exactly how it is today I heard it got softer than when I was in in 1983. My training was different it was 16 weeks as all M.P law enforcement training is for all branches Marines too. training is the same. etc Navy. We the Army M.Ps and Marine M.P's, Airforce Security Forces........ police all branches regardless of Rank. When on duty we work for the Provoost Marshall. I can assure you my training was intense and at times insane to say the least. Today I know it is easier but I cant accurately guage it. Your video was dubed due to the debate on youtube of which training is harder Marines or Army. Our Drill screamed like that back then, But now I dont think it is as intense.
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Sgt Alex Clarke
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Is this a real question?
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Sgt Andrew Pouliot
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Nah
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