Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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No, tthe missions and required measures are completely different.
Some missions are within the same areas but there's no reason to consolidate .
Some missions are within the same areas but there's no reason to consolidate .
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No. The Marines would get sub-par medics from the Army instead of real Navy Corpsmen.
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Absolutely not. Although to be honest, the MC has never completely she its connection to the Navy, so it is still a subset of that organization. I disagree with combining the services, however, for the simple reason that it puts far too much power and control under one banner. The temptation for the abuse of power is an inherent human quality, making it way too dangerous, even if their missions remained separate.
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No, each branch has a different mission and role in our military services.
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Until they develop a vaccine that will prevent soldiers from getting sick when they ingest crayons, Army folks won’t be able to keep up with us Leathernecks...
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Being a member of both the marines and the Army, I would say, "yes, but". Let me clarify.
Despite the gallons of money now being pumped into DoD, this country cannot (and should not) afford to keep 2 armies, 2 navies, 4 air forces, etc (I am speaking more of the small navy the Army has for amphibious uses, not the Coast Guard, a branch of service that has specific DHS duties).
So how would this work?
1. Consolidate all aviation into the Air Force. You can type qualify things like carrier qualifications, but a fighter pilot should be a fighter pilot. A Ground support pilot should be a ground support pilot, type qualified in the aircraft they are assigned to. Someone should be able to be transferred in and out of sea duty, provided they pass the (stringent) qualifications.
2. Consolidate the Marines and the Army. Marines should be a qualification, much like airborne is now. (I've been around both, they have a similar mind set.) Divisions should be situational, built how as needed. Brigades can keep the shoulder patch and main mission that the divisions now hold(1st Mar Div-1st Mar Bde; 1st Cav Div-1st Cav Bde; etc.) The brigades are a mix of combat battalions(Infantry, armor, Cav, Air Cav, Engineer, Artillery, Airborne Infantry, Marine Infantry, etc), support battalions/companies as needed. You could tailor them for what you would expect them to face.
None of this is easy, but should at least be discussed
Despite the gallons of money now being pumped into DoD, this country cannot (and should not) afford to keep 2 armies, 2 navies, 4 air forces, etc (I am speaking more of the small navy the Army has for amphibious uses, not the Coast Guard, a branch of service that has specific DHS duties).
So how would this work?
1. Consolidate all aviation into the Air Force. You can type qualify things like carrier qualifications, but a fighter pilot should be a fighter pilot. A Ground support pilot should be a ground support pilot, type qualified in the aircraft they are assigned to. Someone should be able to be transferred in and out of sea duty, provided they pass the (stringent) qualifications.
2. Consolidate the Marines and the Army. Marines should be a qualification, much like airborne is now. (I've been around both, they have a similar mind set.) Divisions should be situational, built how as needed. Brigades can keep the shoulder patch and main mission that the divisions now hold(1st Mar Div-1st Mar Bde; 1st Cav Div-1st Cav Bde; etc.) The brigades are a mix of combat battalions(Infantry, armor, Cav, Air Cav, Engineer, Artillery, Airborne Infantry, Marine Infantry, etc), support battalions/companies as needed. You could tailor them for what you would expect them to face.
None of this is easy, but should at least be discussed
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SSG Ed Hartman
BTW, I have been Infantry, Aviation, Field Artillery, Electronics Maintenance and currently work as IT for DoD in a multi-branch combined command.
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Consolidation would save tons of money, hopefully Army will adopt marine uniform instead of the new old WW II uniform whis looks like south american uniforms. Wondered where thhose old uniforms went.
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