Posted on Feb 8, 2014
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I have been looking at the regulations for boots and I have noticed that some the boots do not quite match with the info. My question is based on the regulation; should Nike and rocky C4T trainers should not allowed to be worn with the uniform. Do you you agree or disagree?
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Its up to your commander. I have been wearing Nike boots for 3 units now. Once you try them you will never go back to basic issue.
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Actually SFC the 1SG is right the Nike boots are authorized brand, however they must meet the requirements.
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AR 670-1 and or DA PAM 670-1 Chapter 20-3 Appendix (a)  • 31 March 2014

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COL Strategic Plans Chief
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Not anymore. CSA's revisited guidance that just came out puts those on the do-not-wear list.
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Not only are the Nike boots synthetic leather, but they also feature non-rubber soles. There are rubber pads at the heel and ball of the foot, but the arch is composed of EVA Foam. 670-1 requires the sole to be made of rubber. They may be comfortable footwear, but they do not meet the requirements for authorized wear.
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The nike boot is too versatile and lightweight. It prevents injuries and makes serving more comfortable. Of course it must be against regulation. We need heavy crap that weighs us down and makes it near impossible to rush for cover or actually chase down an insurgent. We need to be wearing 80 lbs of bullshit so when they shoot at us they can ditch their gun, flip us off, jump a small fence and run down a narrow alley laughing their asses off at how stupid we are (sarcasm). This call pisses me off. If I were Sergeant major of the army I would be unauthorizing any equipment that slows my army down, causes injuries, or gives an advantage to the enemy.
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Should boots like Nike and Rocky C4T be authorized?
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I was researching for new boots and what are authorized and came across this discussion. I was close to buying the Rocky C4T until I stumbled across their new boot, the C5C. Rocky specifically states the C4T isn't authorized but the newer C5C is. It also looks like a better boot anyway. I didn't realize the C4T's or Nike's were unauthorized as I see so many people wearing them.
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SGT James McCue
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It is annoying to me that troops wear all kind of different boots. I look down the ranks and I see at least five or more different types of boots. 

Whatever happened to uniformity?
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I would love to know when and where you will ever see every soldier in a formation wearing the same boots?
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I don't think that will ever happen because of the numerous exceptions. As far as unauthorized boots its up to the NCOs to educate themselves and enforce the standards.
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Even issued boots are different. I remember back in basic training, we all wore our issued boots obviously but there were like 3 different brands of issued boots. When I DX my boots at the end of basic, I got issued 2 pairs of completely different boots.
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Commanders may order their soldiers to wear army issued boots for uniformity purposes. Check the new 670-1 2014 reg.
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Reading through this forum I see a lot of folks defending the Nike boots. I know many Soldiers wear them, but they are still unauthorized. The current DA Pam 670-1 states:

(3) Optional boots.
(a) As an option, Soldiers may wear commercial boots of a design similar to that of the Army combat boot (tan), as
authorized by the commander. The boots must be between 8 to 10 inches in height and made of tan flesh-side out
cattlehide leather, with a plain toe and a soling system matching the color of the tan upper materials. Rubber and
polyether polyurethane are the only outsole materials that are authorized. The soling materials will not exceed 2 inches
in height, when measured from the bottom of the outsole, and will not extend up the back of the heel or boot or over
the top of the toe. The exterior of the boot upper will not contain mesh but will be constructed of either all leather or a
combination of leather and nonmesh fabric. Soldiers may wear optional boots in lieu of the Army combat boot (tan), as
authorized by the commander; however, they do not replace issue boots as a mandatory possession item.

Nikes are made of synthetic leather and feature EVA foam in portions of the outsole. Therefore they do not meet authorized standards. I know that folks love them, but just because a person likes a thing doesn't mean it is authorized. If that were the case, then we would see all kinds of craziness in our formations.

In my book a standard is a standard and should be upheld. Just because something is nice or someone else is doing it doesn't make it right. There are plenty of other good options out there other than Nike.
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SGT Craig Northacker
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Put them on and walk in front of your CSM...
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I have I was in a change of command cermony with them in the front and no one said any thing.
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I have the UA boots, never had an issue.
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I agree with 2LT Anisimov on this one.  According to the reg, these are authorized.  Another litmus test that I use is when I see CSMs wearing them, you know it is authorized because I haven't met a CSM yet that doesn't uphold and enforce the standards!  I personally like the Nike boots and have been wearing them for the past ~4 years, and they are awesome.  They are lightweight, durable, and they require almost no time to break them in.  I haven't had a single blister from wearing them either, and they sure took a beating in Afghanistan!  The other thing I really like about them is that they fit the same as the Nike shoe sized for the Nike free.  It takes the guess work out of ordering online, where you can sometimes find them at decent discounts.

If you don't mind me asking, what about these boots would make you question whether they are authorized?
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I know i'm a little late to this thread, but in the ALARACT, it states that boots must be made of genuine cattle hide leather. The Nikes, Rocky C4Ts, and several other popular boots do not fall within this guidance. Do I like it, no. I loved my Nikes, especially to run in, until I found out. I work at the NCO Academy and it's an issue we make corrections on all the time. My biggest issue is those who are corrected and make no change. Most of these offenders are officers. Once we show NCO's in writing where it says you can't do it, they adapt. Officers on the other hand tend to take an "I'm above the regulation" attitude which gets handed down to the lower enlisted, which obviously is not the right example to set. Think about it this way, if a 1LT wore Nike boots to formation and one of his subordinates wore flip-flops to the formation, does the 1LT have the right to correct the Soldier? Although it's an extreme example, it's the same. Unauthorized is unauthorized, is unauthorized regardless of the extremity to which it is taken.
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I could not have said it better myself.
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