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Should these recent events disqualify him?
1. He took classified documents and stored them in unlocked rooms.
2. He had dinner with two known antisemitic men.
3. He is now talking about suspending the Constitution.

Should he disqualify himself? In 2020 he said Biden was too old to become President. If Trump is reelected in 2024, he will be five months older than the age Biden was in 2020.
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TSgt Alex Barkey
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Well the current President also had classified documents as well from the time that he was VP times 4. So both Biden and Trump are wrong for doing so if people want to judge. You can agree with me or not the facts is there. In my opinion both should be penalized for the infraction.
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FROM THE PENN /BIDEN CENTER TOO?? ALSO CHINA DONATED 30 million $ TO BIDENS CRIME FAMILY FOR THE PENNE CENTER ALSO$$$ PVT SELL OUT
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I am not out to make this another place that people can slam each other over who they feel is ideal.
However to address some of your concerns:
1. He took classified documents and stored them in unlocked rooms.
I am not sure if you have the unlocked rooms totally right, but they certainly were not in locked file cabinets that they should have been. His overall thought process on Classified, Sensitive and Official Documents makes one wonder if he even understands why documents are labeled at certain levels. If any one left the military did the same thing they would be recalled to Active Duty to face court martial and be serving jail time. So on that point alone, I feel he is not fit for serving in any office ever again.

2. He had dinner with two known anti-Semitic men.
This alone is only being shared in the news to create more news for him. Their has been many current and former elected officials that have had meetings with people that would be very questionable. Does that in itself disqualify them from serving in office? No I would say as unless you can connect this meeting to some type of promise or deal then it merely was just a meeting.

3. He is now talking about suspending the Constitution.
This one certainly is a disqualification for anyone that makes even comments to get rid of the Constitution. This document is the only thing keeping this nation from having a monarchy or being overthrown by some group.

I always tell people to vote to the person based on their beliefs and values and do not make a choice based on what your family, neighbors or friends tell you to do.

We are still a free nation and we still have the right to vote.
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I appreciate your well thought out argument, and more so since there is absolutely no bias either way. I just want to have a civilized discussion. Thank you.
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MEANWHILE BIDENS ASS HAS MANY CLASIFIED SECRET DOCUMENTS INSIDE THE PENNE/CHINESE CENTER IN PA & HIS OWN GARAGE SO THAT HUNTER COULD USE THEM WHEN HE NEEDED TO FOR USE WITH CHINESE SPYS, I suppose! The latest news came out today with JOHN DURHAM SAYING THAT THE RUSSIA HOAX CLINTON GATE BUNCH OF GARBAGE IS & WAS JUST THAT. The FBI knew that from the get-go, that these charges against DJTRUMP was & IS A FRAUDULENT SMEAR AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE< THE F B I FRECEIVES ALL OF ITS FUNDING FROM US TAXPAYERS< & 40 MILLION OF OUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS WAS SQUANDERED BY THESE BUNCH OF CRIMINALS IS DISGUSTING TO ME. To develope a criminal investigation into several of the TRUMP white house without even a shred of compelling evidence is beyond defending so pls shut the hell up. THey were forced to lie to a VISA COURT JUDGE IN ORDER TO PULL THIS SHIT OFF< I AM SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW< I could !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ANY MORE BS FROM ANY ONE< SO BUZZ OFF MF!
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Amn Roger Omberg - Omberg, I like your replies. Not because I agree with everything. But because it is obvious you have learned to think for yourself and use your head for something besides a hat rack.
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SPC James Neidig
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This Is An Easy One! NO ! He Would Not Be The Best Choice To Beat The Democrats , He Has Too Many Issues.
The Better Choices Would Be Abbott Or DeSantis If Either Decided To Run.
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The Only Thing Third Party Candidates Do Is Split The Vote From Their Former Party.
His Chance Of Winning Is Slim To None ,
If He Starts His Own Party .
DeSantis Or Abbott Would Be The Best Choices, They Both Have A lot Of Support From Republicans And Conservative And Moderate Democrats.
If DeSantis As President And Abbott As VP On The Republican Ticket, I Don’t Think The Democrats Would Stand A Chance
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I don't think anyone has publicly mentioned that ticket. I live in Texas, but I haven't heard of Abbott running for higher office, and before the election DeSantis claimed he was thinking only about being reelected as Governor (if you believe that, I have a bridge I want to sell you). I don't know if the GOP is pressuring DeSantis or if he is putting out feelers, but I agree that they would be tough for the Democrats to beat. The question is would Abbott be willing to accept the VP nomination?
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I Haven’t Heard Of It Either ! But We Could Hope !
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If The Choice Is Between Trump Or Biden?
I Will Choose Other ! Since I Don't Think Either One Is A Good Choice.
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Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

SOURCE : https://casetext.com/statute/united-states-code/title-18-crimes-and-criminal-procedure/part-i-crimes/chapter-115-treason-sedition-and-subversive-activities

Federal Criminal Law: January 6, 2021, Unrest at the Capitol

SOURCE :

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim


18 U.S.C. 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

SOURCE :

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCODE-2011-title18/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap115-sec2385


Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)



https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10564


Treason, Sedition, And Subversive Activities

* 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection. Inciting or assisting a rebellion against the United States, or giving comfort to those who insight an insurrection, can be imprisoned for up to 10 years under this statute.

* § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy. If two or more people in the U.S. conspire to overthrow, destroy, or oppose the U.S. government by force or to prevent the application of the law or to take property of the U.S. contrary to its authority, they can be imprisoned for up to 20 years.

* § 2385 – Advocating overthrow of Government. Knowingly and willfully advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government or the government of any states or territories can result in a fine and up to 20 years of imprisonment. Organizing groups to overthrow the government or circulating materials aimed at overthrowing the government can also result in charges under this statute, as can conspiring to commit any of the offenses listed in 18 U.S. Code section 2385.

SOURCE :

https://www.lvcriminaldefense.com/usc/treason-sedition-and-subversive-activities/
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PV2 Larry Sellnow - Is there some point you're trying to make?
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PV2 Larry Sellnow

MGladwell Why is it sooooo hard for his supporters to see anything wrong or offensive that #45 does is ACTUALLY wrong?

He insults John McCain as a POW, Used the General sons death as a defense after the General had previously asked him not to use his son for political purposes, yet then the General as a good soldier had to co-sign it. He draft dodge The Vietnam War 5 times (FACTS, it’s public record) and yet you and others says he “loves and respect the military”. SMDH, Lmmfao

https://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-military-training-quote/


Trump himself has never served in the military. Selective Service records obtained from the National Archives by The Smoking Gun in 2011 reveal the following history of his draft eligibility:

1964: Donald Trump became eligible for the draft on his 18th birthday (14 June 1964) and registered with the Selective Service System 10 days later. He received the first of four 2-S (college) deferments on 28 July 1964.

1965: Trump received his second college deferment on 14 December 1965.

1966: Trump's previous deferment expired and he was reclassified 1-A (available for military service) on 22 November 1966. His 2-S deferment was renewed on 13 December.

1967: No record.

1968: Trump received his fourth and final college deferment on 16 January 1968. After graduating from Wharton, he was reclassified 1-A on 9 July 1968. Trump underwent an Armed Forces physical examination (with a result listed only as "DISQ") on 19 September 1968 and was reclassified 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency) on 15 October 1968.

campaign, the 1-Y classification stemmed from Trump's having bone spurs in both heels:
While attending the University of Pennsylvania's prestigious Wharton School of Finance, Mr. Trump received a minor medical deferment for bone spurs on both heels of his feet.

The medical deferment was expected to be short-term and he was therefore entered in the military draft lottery, where he received an extremely high number, 356 out of 365.

The details of that medical exemption remain unclear and controversial, and most draft-related government medical records from the Vietnam era were not preserved.

1972:
Despite the supposedly "short-term" nature of Trump's disqualifying physical condition, on 17 February 1972 he was reclassified 4-F (not qualified for military service), presumably due to the abolishment of the 1-Y classification the previous year.

SOURCE : https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/08/02/donald-trumps-draft-deferments/
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PV2 Larry Sellnow My apologies the previous posting is a pre-written response and not directed at you. Hence the wording towards the ending : “and yet you and others says he “loves and respect the military”. SMDH, Lmmfao ” phase.
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https://youtu.be/YgkYUNJIDWI

It can NOT be any clearer the threat I've warned about.

Others have warned about.


A.) If you didn’t understand before & you still don’t …

Saddam's 1979 Baath Party purge

The BBC's John Simpson looks at footage of the moment Saddam Hussein carried out a very public purge of more than 60 senior members of the ruling Baath Party,

https://youtu.be/U9HgdVN9C_k



B.) Inside the remote California county where the far right took over: ‘Civility went out the window’

This article is more than 1 month old
Shasta Lake on 2 July 2021 in Redding, California. Photograph: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images

In Shasta county the pandemic intensified political divisions, and many officials quit or were pushed out amid bitter tensions
by Dani Anguiano in Redding, California

SOURCE : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/23/california-shasta-county-far-right-extremists-politics-pandemic



2.) Another extremist-driven California county recall is just getting started. Here’s where
BY JASON POHL AND RYAN SABALOW UPDATED FEBRUARY 14, 2022 8:57 AM
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* SOURCE : https://amp.sacbee.com/news/california/article258071928.html
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Another pick-me emerges. They won't pick her.
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1.) Vauhxx Booker : black activist details 'attempted lynching' by group of white men in Indiana – video

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/jul/08/vauhxx-booker-black-activist-details-attempted-lynching-by-group-of-white-men-in-indiana-video


2.) FBI investigating reported Indiana alleged lynching attempt

Warning: Video contains disturbing content. Discretion is advised. The FBI and Justice Department said this week they are investigating an alleged “attempted lynching” incident in Indiana after a Black activist said he was attacked by a group of white people after accidentally walking through private property near Lake Monroe on July 4.

https://globalnews.ca/video/7163600/fbi-investigating-reported-indiana-alleged-lynching-attempt


3.) 2 Indiana men charged in assault on Black man, threat to ‘get a noose’
Sean Purdy and Jerry Cox II were charged criminal confinement and battery

Casey Smith, Associated Press
July 17, 2020

https://thegrio.com/2020/07/17/indiana-men-charged-black-man-noose/


*** Disclaimer : This a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo. ***

“I will not apologize for telling the FACTS, in a world that worship the lies”.

Soooooo ...

Then we’ve got ...

2020 Possible Lynching Victims :


1.) #DominiqueAlexander, 27, Found Hanging From a tree in Fort Tryon Park in Manhattan, New York
June 9, 2020

SOURCE : https://www.bet.com/article/2z4tkm/three-black-men-found-hanging-spark-calls-for-lynching-probe

2.) #RobertFuller, 24, Found Hanging From a Tree Near City Hall in Palmdale, California, on June 10, 2020

SOURCE : https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/21295670/robert-fuller-malcolm-harsch-hanging-history-lynching


3.) #Unidentified Man Found Hanging From a Tree in the Shady Acres Neighborhood of Houston, Texas, on June 15, 2020

SOURCE 1 : https://www.bet.com/article/19ocih/man-found-dead-and-hanging-from-a-tree-in-houston

SOURCE 2 : https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/four-black-men-hanging-deaths/


4.) #JulianHeywardIII, 67, Found hanged on his Haiku porch in Maui, Hawaii Heyward was found deceased at around 6:36 p.m. on Aug. 10, 2020.

SOURCE : https://mauialert.com/demonstrators-push-for-investigation-into-haiku-death-case-p1648-172.htm



5.) #NevanBaker, 22, Found Hanging From a Tree in Barker Park on Monte Carlo Trail near Camping World Stadium, Orlando, FL Oct. 5, 2020

SOURCE : https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/10/12/family--crump-want-full-investigation-into-nevan-baker-s-death#:~:text=on%20October%205.-,The%20medical%20examiner%20ruled%20Baker's%20death%20a%20suicide%20by%20hanging,at%20321%2D235%2D5300.


So yep ... I’ve been paying attention to all of it.
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MSgt Robert Gazy
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I think everyone can agree that Trump divides and polarizes Americans more than any other. So, the simple question is:

Is a divided America stronger?

Time for a different choice.
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Sgt Robert Beverly
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The criminal fascist and his crime family should spend the rest of their unnatural lives in GitMo.
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SPC Kynthia Rosgeal
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Only if he is running from a speeding bus with no brakes. I prefer my leaders not be rapists.
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Gee, I don't want to seem too angry, but what's it going to take to get people to perceive that he's treacherous, incompetent, criminal, a liar, poorly informed, a rapist, incapable of picking a competent group of advisors, fond of bundling up to dictators, incapable of formulating economic policy, sexist, racist, anti-veteran and veteran families, a draft-dodger, a seditionist who tried to overturn an election knowing himself to have lost, and a person who didn't care if his vice-president were murdered?
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SGT Pedro Belardo
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Amn Roger Omberg - Yep, keep your views that are feverishly and religiously fanatical to yourself. Thanks. I believe in God and biblical prophecy and God and Jesus don't need the help of a spiritually rotten to the core sleaze bag like Trump to bring God's Kingdom to Earth, thanks but no thanks again.
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Amn Roger Omberg
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ANONYMOUS, just commented, "I think you are spot on. You are telling the real deal. Thank You!! SO sad we disagree, Pedro.
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SrA Michele Burgman
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Amn Roger Omberg - speak for yourself. My tax liability went up because of the GOP tax scam bill of 2017.
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Amn Roger Omberg
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It is very hard to deal with the TRUTH, there is NO slack for anyone including myself,
I would not deceive any of You because I must consider YOUR selfless service for our FREEDOM, & I thank each one for that! God Bless USA
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One has to ask themselves do I believe a habitual liar and fraud that everyone else is lying about what is as plain as day, there is no manufactured evidence these are his actions and words. I myself have no problem with the inquiries that brought about investigations after NO ONE is ABOVE the Law !!
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Amn Roger Omberg
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Are we speaking about BIDEN?
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