Posted on Feb 19, 2014
Should Officers be allowed to use first names and have hands in pockets around Enlisted Soldiers?
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SOF Imperative #1 - Know your operational environment.
We all know the regs, and yet almost all of us have placed our hands in our pockets for reasons other than to retrieve or place an item in the pocket (AR 670-1)...if the Soldier has their hands in their pockets in an environment where you are inclined to enforce the reg, then they failed to execute Imperative #1.
We all know the regs, and yet almost all of us have placed our hands in our pockets for reasons other than to retrieve or place an item in the pocket (AR 670-1)...if the Soldier has their hands in their pockets in an environment where you are inclined to enforce the reg, then they failed to execute Imperative #1.
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A puppy dies every time a first name is used in the Army and pockets on the uniform are like Army grass. They are for looking at and maintaining, not for using!
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I was on a first name basis with my O-6 commander when I was a 2LT.
He called me Seid and I called him Sir.
He called me Seid and I called him Sir.
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MCPO Roger Collins
For my first 13 years in the Navy, I thought my first name was Collins, then when I was promoted to E-7 it magically changed to Chief. As for Os, Sir met the need for first names and avoiding confusion.
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I know this answer seems to come from the dark agesthe 60s,but on returning from Vietnam I was assigned to the AIT committee group at Ft. Polk LA as an instructor on the patrolling range.I was surprised by the trainees telling me don't bother to come to attention and saluting their LTs when they visited the patrolling point as the LTs had told them they just wanted to be one of the guys happened on many occasions so this is an old problem and by the way this was not while we were out on the actual patrol areas as we all know there is nothing more frightening than a second lieutenant with a compass!
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I saw this happen not just among officers but also among enlisted, after deploying
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Hands in pockets? Hell, no.
First names between equals or from higher to lower? Not recommended in my book, especially around junior Joes/Joannes...but I am pretty old school. Around senior NCOs it seems to be acceptable, but it still makes me a little uncomfortable.
First names between equals or from higher to lower? Not recommended in my book, especially around junior Joes/Joannes...but I am pretty old school. Around senior NCOs it seems to be acceptable, but it still makes me a little uncomfortable.
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Officer culture. Not always for the defender of regulations. The first name thing in front of enlisted is just a no no, especially in front of junior enlisted who are unaware that officer culture is very prominent in the services. Hands in pockets is just violating regulations. Officer culture must go back to when enlisted were practically cannon fodder and arrow catchers and officers were highly educated and hard to replace. Gentlemen.
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SFC Craig Dalen
It would be very hard for an Officer who exercises these behaviors to impose punishment on a Soldier for doing the same thing. There is no such thing as do as I say and not as I do.
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