Posted on Mar 30, 2018
Should paternity leave be automatically granted?
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I have a buddy who is in a non-combat Zone and his wife is 7 months pregnant with their first child. The Army loves to put an emphasis on family and how important it is, but I'm being told that there is a very strong possibility that he will not be granted paternity leave to come home for the birth. Should soldiers be automatically granted paternity leave unless in a combat zone?
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Yes, short of being deployed or currently involved in an investigation. It needs to be approved. If this guy doesn't get it approved in 2 years a retention NCO will be scratching his head wondering why he wont reenlist...
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SPC David Willis
I also think you should be allowed to go into the hole as many days as will be made up by ETS date.
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Leave is never automatically granted because the mission comes first, it's up to the commander to determine if the mission can be met without the SM. It's not what anyone wants to hear, but that's the way it is. What does need to happen, paternity leave needs to be put in the AR, not using a MILPER from 2014 or 15.
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If he was at "the scene of the crime", unless he's deployed, why not, he's the father of the child.
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Paternity leave should be granted for every instance of ATTEMPTING fatherhood...
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If you are asking about regulation, then no. He can get time when he gets back.
If you are asking should the regulation change, yes I think it should. If it is possible to leave someone behind on a deployment because the baby will deliver while they are gone, then do so.
If you are asking should the regulation change, yes I think it should. If it is possible to leave someone behind on a deployment because the baby will deliver while they are gone, then do so.
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Yes, if it is "convenient". Sadly, family, although still important, may suffer. Remember the old adage, "They also serve who stand and wait"
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"Automatically" is not the correct word to use.
I understand where you are coming from, but let's adjust some verbiage.
Let's try this out:
"Should every effort be made to grant (paternity) leave barring mission needs?"
Sounds like current policy, when you look at it, right? Especially since Annual Leave is a Legal Right*. It is accrued, and the Service member is allowed to use it, at their Commander's Discretion (he has VERY wide latitude as to what those Mission Requirements are).
That said, let's use the Marine Corps' Fundamentals of Leadership "Mission Accomplishment & Troop Welfare"
Will the Troop's absence (Leave) negatively impact (prevent) the accomplishment of the mission? If not, grant the Leave. Our default answer as leaders should lean towards "allow" instead of "disallow," unless we have logical reason otherwise.
*http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/news/military-leave-it-s-a-right-not-a-privilege-granted/article_aaa7cfad-dd88-55d5-8bf2-f491019ba6d3.html
I understand where you are coming from, but let's adjust some verbiage.
Let's try this out:
"Should every effort be made to grant (paternity) leave barring mission needs?"
Sounds like current policy, when you look at it, right? Especially since Annual Leave is a Legal Right*. It is accrued, and the Service member is allowed to use it, at their Commander's Discretion (he has VERY wide latitude as to what those Mission Requirements are).
That said, let's use the Marine Corps' Fundamentals of Leadership "Mission Accomplishment & Troop Welfare"
Will the Troop's absence (Leave) negatively impact (prevent) the accomplishment of the mission? If not, grant the Leave. Our default answer as leaders should lean towards "allow" instead of "disallow," unless we have logical reason otherwise.
*http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/news/military-leave-it-s-a-right-not-a-privilege-granted/article_aaa7cfad-dd88-55d5-8bf2-f491019ba6d3.html
Military leave: It’s a right, not a privilege, granted by Congress under federal law
One of the frequent questions and issues Soldiers and Family members ask the III Corps Inpector General is about leave, particularly about emergency and convalescent leave.
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I gotta laugh a bit here. When I was an active duty Marine (1985-89) MATERNITY leave wasn't automatic. Once discharged from the hospital, my CO still had to sign off on it. I think it's great they're allowing for paternity leave though.
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