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I personally don't have an issue with sex offenders being in the Armed Forces to serve our country as long as there's a tracking mechanism for them and make them register on and off post. What are your views?
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I'd have a big issue with it. The military already has a big, big problem with rape and harassment, we don't need to add to it. Also being the military is about honor. There is no honor in that.
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CH (CPT) Heather Davis
LCPL Lefler:
You are absolutely correct, and that is my thoughts precisely. It does not align up with our core military branches.
Semper FI which means always faithful!!
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<p>I have an issue with it and it does not align up with our Military values.</p><p><br></p><p>We put our Nation's Sons and Daughter's at risk.</p><p><br></p><p>We compromise the integrity of our units, cohesion, and the impact that it has for those that believed in the sacred bond of brotherhood.</p><p><br></p><p>You have generations that come from military families and they see the military as a family.</p>
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Perhaps this is a major part of the problem. If we refused to recruit, enlist, appoint, and/or retain known sex offenders in the military, perhaps we would avoid having to deal with the huge number of assaults reported and even larger number of assaults estimated to be committed on against male and female service members.<div><br></div><div>What possible purpose is served by keeping known sex offenders in the armed forces?</div><div><br></div>
CH (CPT) Heather Davis
<p>Ma'am:</p><p><br></p><p>Respectfully you are absolutely correct, it is imperative for the safety and moral discipline of our Nation's greatest resource that our Military exemplifies honor, duty, selfless service, personal courage, integrity.</p><p><br></p><p>This is a direct violation of our honor code!</p>
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LTC Stephen C.
1LT Sandy Annala, my answer to your question is that no possible good purpose is served by keeping known sex offenders in the armed forces.
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SFC Finley:
How do you put the in leadership positions to shape and develop the next generation when they do not align up with moral integrity and the Army values?
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CH (CPT) Heather Davis
1SG I am passionate about this and when you look at cases such as PFC Lavena Martin who was 19 years old and trusted her leadership.
I didn't realize until recently that we let sex offenders in our military.
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#TW #satire<br>Special missions unit "Dirty Deeds by the Dozen" style. Put them all
in the same unit for the purpose of plausible deniability of war crimes
against nature behind enemy lines. <br><br>Seriously though, is recruiting so bad that we really need this in uniform? We are actually prosecuting a General Officer for this at the moment. Are we really ok with predatory exploitation in the ranks? I'm not... <br><br>As for the teen romance, consult your local Congressman and get the crimes pulled off the books or whatever it takes to get off a registered offender list. Case by case basis, judge, governor of your state. You want in the service, don't make it the recruiters job to get you a moral waiver.<br>
in the same unit for the purpose of plausible deniability of war crimes
against nature behind enemy lines. <br><br>Seriously though, is recruiting so bad that we really need this in uniform? We are actually prosecuting a General Officer for this at the moment. Are we really ok with predatory exploitation in the ranks? I'm not... <br><br>As for the teen romance, consult your local Congressman and get the crimes pulled off the books or whatever it takes to get off a registered offender list. Case by case basis, judge, governor of your state. You want in the service, don't make it the recruiters job to get you a moral waiver.<br>
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It depends on the offense.
A Nebraska man was sentenced not long ago for sexually assaulting a minor. The victim is now his wife, and they have 4 kids together. Is a teenage romance indicative of a continued threat to the public?
The age of consent in New Mexico is 17, but right across the border in Arizona it's 18.
I had graduated, married, and completed OSUT before I turned 18 (legal age in my state of origin). Is my ex a predator?
There are sex offenders who are guilty of nothing more than public urination.
A Nebraska man was sentenced not long ago for sexually assaulting a minor. The victim is now his wife, and they have 4 kids together. Is a teenage romance indicative of a continued threat to the public?
The age of consent in New Mexico is 17, but right across the border in Arizona it's 18.
I had graduated, married, and completed OSUT before I turned 18 (legal age in my state of origin). Is my ex a predator?
There are sex offenders who are guilty of nothing more than public urination.
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SFC Aaron Finley
Exactly, It seem like when a person says the words Sex Offender people automatically think and assume the worst in others. Imagine taking a long trip driving a car from Cali to Florida and the person pulls to the side of the interstate and decide to take a wizz. Â Something as simple as this can put a person into this category of public urination. Can this person still serve their country? Â Yes, is my opinion. So yes, it definitely depends on the circumstances. Â
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"Sex Offenders in the Army?"
A sex offender as the laws were written for? No, not a person the Service should be devoting time and resources to. Actually not a person society should be devoting time and resources to.
The problem is, DAs a political appointee sometimes use those very laws to punish what most would consider non sex offenses..
I personally know of two SM charged, convicted and required to register who's crime was, peeing in a public area, on school property.......It was Sunday and 2 AM, there were no children present..heck there was no one present except it was caught on camera and reported to police.
Or a Sex offence according to the law, but with a large amount of mitigation...
I personally know three SM charged with rape, the "victim" was in a bar that required one to be 21 to enter, the "victim" was drinking Alcohol. The "victim" told the SM she was 19 and snuck in.
The "victim" consented and approved of the sexual contact. (of note she legally was not of age to consent) The "victim" departed the location happy, telling a friend she had a great time and the guys were nice..... She wanted to date one of them further.
Mom and Dad had other plans, all three SM were charged with rape, that she lied did not matter, that she was in a place one would likely assume the patrons were of age did not matter, that she was consuming alcohol in an establishment that was known to card everyone did not matter.
Those three SM got a reasonable light sentence because the judge and jury felt while not legally possible, it was consensual in that all party's were happy to indulge. And the assumptions of age made were reasonable.
All three will forever be required to register as sex offenders. They clearly made bad judgments and if thinking straight, with an eye for what might be wrong, vice how can we see this as ok..I doubt they would have taken at face value what they did.
She was only 16 at the time.......the old saying 16 will get you 20 applied....almost literally.
A sex offender as the laws were written for? No, not a person the Service should be devoting time and resources to. Actually not a person society should be devoting time and resources to.
The problem is, DAs a political appointee sometimes use those very laws to punish what most would consider non sex offenses..
I personally know of two SM charged, convicted and required to register who's crime was, peeing in a public area, on school property.......It was Sunday and 2 AM, there were no children present..heck there was no one present except it was caught on camera and reported to police.
Or a Sex offence according to the law, but with a large amount of mitigation...
I personally know three SM charged with rape, the "victim" was in a bar that required one to be 21 to enter, the "victim" was drinking Alcohol. The "victim" told the SM she was 19 and snuck in.
The "victim" consented and approved of the sexual contact. (of note she legally was not of age to consent) The "victim" departed the location happy, telling a friend she had a great time and the guys were nice..... She wanted to date one of them further.
Mom and Dad had other plans, all three SM were charged with rape, that she lied did not matter, that she was in a place one would likely assume the patrons were of age did not matter, that she was consuming alcohol in an establishment that was known to card everyone did not matter.
Those three SM got a reasonable light sentence because the judge and jury felt while not legally possible, it was consensual in that all party's were happy to indulge. And the assumptions of age made were reasonable.
All three will forever be required to register as sex offenders. They clearly made bad judgments and if thinking straight, with an eye for what might be wrong, vice how can we see this as ok..I doubt they would have taken at face value what they did.
She was only 16 at the time.......the old saying 16 will get you 20 applied....almost literally.
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a convected fellon with a problem... provides the reasonable doubt... when total and complete trust is requires in "in The Foxhole"
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I have zero faith in the registry.
People are on the registry for life for such things as:
Having a freshman girlfriend as a high school senior
Public urination
Having sex on a public beach
Exposing themselves to another person of age once. (Not appropriate but it shouldn't be a black list for life)
I also have moral issues with having people on a list after their punishment has been served. I would eliminate registration completely.
People are on the registry for life for such things as:
Having a freshman girlfriend as a high school senior
Public urination
Having sex on a public beach
Exposing themselves to another person of age once. (Not appropriate but it shouldn't be a black list for life)
I also have moral issues with having people on a list after their punishment has been served. I would eliminate registration completely.
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What if the soldier is on a deployment. I could see the chance of a soldier (who is a sex offender) go on patrol, hang a left and assault a local; or worse, a fellow soldier (regardless of sex). As is, the military makes a soldier charged/convicted of domestic abuse non-deployable. Having a convicted sex offender, on deployment, would cause a major incident affecting host nation relations.
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