Posted on Apr 26, 2016
Lt Col Jim Coe
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This article makes a compelling case for redesign of the DoD medal and ribbon policies. The solution offered, wearing valor awards on the right side of uniform, may not please many service members, but it's one idea. Please read the article and take the survey.
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SGT Stephen Comereski
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You shouldn't be awarded for whats expected of you..ie "good work", but Valor is above and beyond and should be recognized and awarded!!
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SPC Brian Stephens
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Keep medals and ribbons the same. Ike was never a paratrooper nor a Ranger and did not have the opportunities to advance and train and achieve that Petraeus had. Ike was stuck in the Philippines as MacArthur's slave and only got out of there because of time in service and automatic promotion to LTC. His only war experience was World War II. Comparing his record to Petraeus and today's soldiers is apples to oranges. It was not the same Army and certainly not the same time.
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SSG Dave Johnston
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The Idea of jumping out of an 'aeroplane' didn't come to fruition until about 1942/43[Band of Brothers], ... and "Rangers", Specialist had you opened a history book, the 'War Department' had to be coerced into developing a "Special Ops" units by PM Churchill bragging about the UK's SAS units and wouldn't it be great if some 'Yanks' could train with them... didn't take into account the number of Yanks that "migrated" to Canada to join Canadian or British forces between 1938 and 1942 that volunteered for SAS training...
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SPC Brian Stephens
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SSG Dave Johnston So, what did any of this have to do with the ribbons and medals policy?
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CPO Charles Helms
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In the Navy unless you are a Seal, SeaBee, a Fleet Marine Corpsman, or Brown Water Navy are some of different ways medals for valor are give! Many more sailors never see combat, so medals presented to them for their hard work and diligence is a way showing them appreciation for that! I have 2 Navy Commendation medals and a Navy Achievement medal for doing my job above and beyond!
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PO2 Jon Coulter
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Too many medals. Looking like Kings of Europe before WW!. You are not paid to loaf about, drinking coffee and counting days until your pension. You are sworn to go in harm's way, whether a Marine, or a Coastguardsman saving lives on the high seas. That kind of medal means something, demands instant respect. All for valor, over time served. A divider showing service would keep order. showing see duty, submarine duty, pilots training.
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Cpl Charles Trump
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Being the Army and AF are the biggest offenders of this let me tell you what I think. Cut out end of tour awards for both enlisted and officers. Army service ribbon should be a record book entry not a ribbon, as PLC and BLC should be. Army recruits shouldn't have anything but a shooting badge and NDM. The GWOTS should only be issued after the 1st deployments.
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SCPO Ralph Hensley
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Too many awards given based on grade/rank rather than criteria. I've never seen so many Soldiers awarded Bronze Stars for current contingencies some who received the medal just for leaving the FOB once or twice. I agree with SPC Ashfield's sentiment. With this Space Force I suspect Airmen will now receive medals for playing video games all day.
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LCpl Cody Collins
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I have more meritorious mass letters and letters of appreciation then I do ribbons. I Seem to always perform at a high level of Excellency no matter what task I was given I always gave it my best and wound up with a letter of appreciation or even a meritorious mast . But I have very few ribbons so I feel valor should have more presidents over good work the two you would think would go hand-in-hand with a person can do a good job and have a mentality that really sucks then you can have a person who’s Mentality is low-key during peacetime what in the heat of the battle the valor and then comes out and shines and they save many lives. That’s why I choose valor over good work because valor comes out of people under the most strenuous and extenuating circumstances . While good work is a broader criteria to consider. Personally I think Hollywood has gotten into the psyche of a lot of American people and they come into the military and other organizations with the mindset to see how they can be a hero rather than how they can perform as part of a team and make the result of a team effort a priority over one’s personal goals to stand out.
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LCpl Larry Morgan
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I feel that all of the "feel good" and "I was there" awards should be done away with.
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PO2 Ron Harlan
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I was passed up for NAM’s 3 or 4 times, either because of rank, division politics (one was for an AVCERT I helped salvage, but I was a snipe...), or because I was unwilling to write my own citation- just didn’t seem right to me...
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SPC John Decker
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They should redesign the policy. They won't. Technically, the DoD is civilian, who don't know what all the ribbons are for. The Generals won't do it because of their ego's.
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