Posted on Sep 20, 2014
Should the DoD terminate its sponsorship of the NFL due to domestic abuse scandals?
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Sec. Hagel has ordered the DoD to review its sponsorship of the NFL, due to the league marginalizing (lying about evidence, sweeping under the rug) domestic assault situations in recent months. The details of those scenarios are sickening.
The DoD appears to be serious about attacking domestic assault problems in the force (SHARP, etc). To what extent, if at all, do you find it hypocritical for the military to spend millions of dollars per year sponsoring a prominent organization whose leaders' actions to not show that they take domestic abuse seriously? Should the DoD stop sponsoring an organization mired in such damning domestic abuse controversy?
More here: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/chuck-hagel-nfl-domestic-violence-review
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The DoD appears to be serious about attacking domestic assault problems in the force (SHARP, etc). To what extent, if at all, do you find it hypocritical for the military to spend millions of dollars per year sponsoring a prominent organization whose leaders' actions to not show that they take domestic abuse seriously? Should the DoD stop sponsoring an organization mired in such damning domestic abuse controversy?
More here: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/chuck-hagel-nfl-domestic-violence-review
Tag: SGM Matthew Quick 1SG Steven Stankovich SSG Robert Burns SSG V. Michelle Woods SSG Scott Williams Col (Join to see) SSgt (Join to see) SFC Mark Merino
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 19
I say yes, but not specifically for this reason alone. The Army and other active branches of service pulled its endorsement of NASCAR because they could not measure any return on investment in encouraging recruiting, as one example. I am not certain we're getting a real/measurable ROI on the NFL, either.
However, a case could be made for the NFL to perhaps work with the DOD and discuss and/or adopt some of the policies and programs the DOD is utilizing to prevent and reduce domestic violence, unprofessional conduct or ethics, etc.
However, a case could be made for the NFL to perhaps work with the DOD and discuss and/or adopt some of the policies and programs the DOD is utilizing to prevent and reduce domestic violence, unprofessional conduct or ethics, etc.
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Sec. Hagel has ordered the DoD to review its sponsorship of the NFL, due to the league marginalizing (lying about evidence, sweeping under the rug)
Ok this is mixed emotions. First off, I voted to have DoD continue sponsorship of the NFL. For the reason I cut and pasted above.... Lying about evidence, sweeping under the rug..... the government does this everyday. Its hypocritical for them to even suggest they have a problem with it. Why is it that when a civilian acts like they care, acts within the law, they gets punished (attempted prosecution)? But when the civilians don't act the way someone wants them to (by not acting at all), they are punished?
2nd, but to a lessor point, why the hell is the DoD sponsoring the NFL in the first place?
Ok this is mixed emotions. First off, I voted to have DoD continue sponsorship of the NFL. For the reason I cut and pasted above.... Lying about evidence, sweeping under the rug..... the government does this everyday. Its hypocritical for them to even suggest they have a problem with it. Why is it that when a civilian acts like they care, acts within the law, they gets punished (attempted prosecution)? But when the civilians don't act the way someone wants them to (by not acting at all), they are punished?
2nd, but to a lessor point, why the hell is the DoD sponsoring the NFL in the first place?
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I think that any domestic battery whether it is in a sports team, the military, or any other organization should be taken seriously and should be punished to a degree that future offenders will see that they better take other steps than violence to solve their problems.
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To me that'd be mass punishment. The individuals do not represent the organization as a whole. If the NFL were to adopt a similar stance on mass punishment, teams would be suspended when a player conducts himself a manner unbecoming of the ethical views of the NFL as a whole rather than just suspend the player.
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It would be premature in my opinion. I believe that following the media attention, we'll see them clean up their act. The NFL is great publicity platform for the DoD.
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All this could have been avoided by putting your allegiances in the hands of the NHL. Let's Go Flyers!
On a more serious note, it isn't the organizations that are to blame, but the individuals. I have absolutely no problem being judged by my actions, but refuse to be looked down upon because someone who wears a uniform disgraces themselves. If I do something worthy of praise and emulation, then to God be the glory, not me.
On a more serious note, it isn't the organizations that are to blame, but the individuals. I have absolutely no problem being judged by my actions, but refuse to be looked down upon because someone who wears a uniform disgraces themselves. If I do something worthy of praise and emulation, then to God be the glory, not me.
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It hurts my head to see government involved with sports in any way. That includes both federal regs and local tax incentives.
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I don't really think the military should sponsor anybody, regardless of what they are doing. It would be better avoid these situations, where female service members may be deeply offended (To be honest after the Ray Rice video we should all be deeply offended).
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I say no they should keep sponsoring with the following caveat. As what seems to be the norm in similar issues, one player strips the ball loose (the initial bad boy). while the commentators in the booths box are trying analyze what caused the fumble (how'd this happen), the players on the field are trying to recover the ball (circling the wagons). Simultaneously, the refs are throwing flags as penalties are occurring all related to the fumble. (more cases start coming out of the woodwork) All the penalties get declined after the mandatory review of the play. (no one knows what to do as there is no precedent) Until there is probable cause the NFL itself is the root of these problems there's no reason to, IMHO.
Don't get me wrong domestic violence of any kind needs to be dealt with swiftly and strongly, but everyone is jumping on bandwagons with no real conclusions. First all these cases took months before coming to true public view - though the RR "initial" video was public in April.When the woman marries her attacker and women wear the jersey of the perpetrator while others burn them in protest and women's groups fly banners over stadiums what is the take away? I'm personally confused.
Then as usual, everyone demands the resignation of the top dog - execution without trial in the court of public opinion. Personally I haven't seen enough to say its ALL Roger Goodell's fault. The piece I find interestingly missing is Why aren't the teams - owners and organizations - of these players being mentioned? Shouldn't THEY have had all the down-low on their own players before it got to the commissioner's level??? Why was nothing done by the team???
Case in point - The NE Patriots released Aaron Hernandez within 24 hours of his arrest for murder, done probably before the commissioner even heard about the incident. The guy was released to avoid the team and the NFL the bad press. So, what happened in these other cases???
Don't get me wrong domestic violence of any kind needs to be dealt with swiftly and strongly, but everyone is jumping on bandwagons with no real conclusions. First all these cases took months before coming to true public view - though the RR "initial" video was public in April.When the woman marries her attacker and women wear the jersey of the perpetrator while others burn them in protest and women's groups fly banners over stadiums what is the take away? I'm personally confused.
Then as usual, everyone demands the resignation of the top dog - execution without trial in the court of public opinion. Personally I haven't seen enough to say its ALL Roger Goodell's fault. The piece I find interestingly missing is Why aren't the teams - owners and organizations - of these players being mentioned? Shouldn't THEY have had all the down-low on their own players before it got to the commissioner's level??? Why was nothing done by the team???
Case in point - The NE Patriots released Aaron Hernandez within 24 hours of his arrest for murder, done probably before the commissioner even heard about the incident. The guy was released to avoid the team and the NFL the bad press. So, what happened in these other cases???
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