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I believe Infantry and Operators should be treated with a higher regard in the military.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
Even officers and NCOs of all other military specialties should show respect to our nation's true warriors.
The general military is doing a good job of promoting everyone is a warrior but those non combat arms specialties do not train or destroy their bodies like true combatants. I would even say that infantry line medics and navy corpsman that are attached to the marines deserve the same regard.
This is not intended as a put down of other specialties but an awareness that some put in more than others in combat arms.
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This post reminds me of the Spartans talking to the Athenians prior to fighting the Persians.
I am going to take the low road here and say this is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on RP.
oh, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how this was not supposed to be a put down and I am a grunt.
I am going to take the low road here and say this is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on RP.
oh, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how this was not supposed to be a put down and I am a grunt.
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I'm sure you mean well by this but I would add that such a "class" already exists and it is called the Combat Arms (Infantry, Armor, Combat Engineers). And even within the combat arms there are tiers; (Conventional Infantry, Rangers (Regiment not tab), SF/Navy Seals, ACE) with conventional Infantry being the lowest. We all play our role.
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SN Greg Wright
CPT Ahmed Faried You give him more credit than I do, Captain. I don't think he meant well at all. I think he's trolling.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
SN Greg Wright - I'm being diplomatic. Besides enough people have torn into him already.
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Why? Why make a bigger separation than there already is? Sure, the 11 series and all combat arms MOS deserve a little extra. Let them have first call in the mess hall and stuff but why call for them to be placed in "a higher regard". Do we not all go off to fight? Sure, some may be safer than others but we all leave our families behind. While I was say that the conditions may not always be the same for combat arms compared to support MOSs, this just rubs me the wrong way. I'm sure this is just a baiting post where guys will come to measure their manhood but I will never tolerate the call to drive a wedge into the brother/sisterhood that the military is. Sure, joke about it and whatnot. Enjoy the Army v Navy game and all that but at the end of the day, none of us could do our job without the other. Bullets don't wrong in the field, pallets of fresh water don't just appear. So enough with the male measuring contests.
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Ok, I know you are part of the new cuddly loving military. FORGIVE THIS CHIEF PETTY OFFICER WHILE HE EXPLAINS LIFE TO YOUR DUMB FUCKING ASS. In asymmetrical warfare everyone is combat arms. Most of my time in the Submarine Force we didn't worry about little faggot ragheads causing problems. Either way, everyone on a Dubmarine is a "warrior". Yeomen to torpedomen live and die together and every man has a true battlestation. I don't know how old you are boy, but I god damn guarantee I've gone through more shit than you. Yearn your place puppy, the big dogs sit on the porch
Ok, I know you are part of the new cuddly loving military. FORGIVE THIS CHIEF PETTY OFFICER WHILE HE EXPLAINS LIFE TO YOUR DUMB FUCKING ASS. In asymmetrical warfare everyone is combat arms. Most of my time in the Submarine Force we didn't worry about little faggot ragheads causing problems. Either way, everyone on a Dubmarine is a "warrior". Yeomen to torpedomen live and die together and every man has a true battlestation. I don't know how old you are boy, but I god damn guarantee I've gone through more shit than you. Yearn your place puppy, the big dogs sit on the porch
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CPO (Join to see)
Well said Brother.... I wouldn't let this guy close to the Mess... From a Dirt Sailor Chief Petty Officer thank you for what you sub guy's do....
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As someone that has been both a Grunt and a POG, I just want to say GROW UP! I have seen support units come under attack, and have to fight their way out on their own, because the Infantry QRFs didn't respond. Then the QRFs make the excuse that their wasn't enough tactical information. I have witnessed more than once, tactical PSYOP units pressing the fight towards the enemy. When at the same time, the Infantry units they were attached to wanted to turned tail. They wanted to run, and wait for the A-10s. My point being, not every Infantry unit performs exemplary in combat, and not every support unit enjoys the comfort, and safety of the FOB. I have seen many support units that were constantly outside the wire, and getting into fights. A lot of these POGs you hold in such utter contempt, have given their all on the battlefield. Some of the Infantry branch you worship like a false god, has never left the wire. I am observing plenty of senior infantry leaders without right-shoulder patches.
It is unfortunate, that there is a caste developing between the civilian world, and vets. Now you want to bring that societal disaster within the ranks. Unfortunately, you're likely not going to listen. Therefore, enjoy the leadership bubble you're creating for yourself, and the RFC that will result. When you hold others in unjustified contempt, they will not give you their best support, and you will fail; miserably.
It is unfortunate, that there is a caste developing between the civilian world, and vets. Now you want to bring that societal disaster within the ranks. Unfortunately, you're likely not going to listen. Therefore, enjoy the leadership bubble you're creating for yourself, and the RFC that will result. When you hold others in unjustified contempt, they will not give you their best support, and you will fail; miserably.
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SSG Pamela Smejkal
Sorry I was too busy at 3 am cooking breakfast to make up a cadence for you to run to at 5am.
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CSM Charles Hayden
SSG Pamela Smejkal I freely admit, I never thanked the military Food Specialists enough! My gratitude is for the early rising DFC personnel's food prep and because I never got sick from eating Army meals.
The old days when the KPs spent 1/2 of their shift opening WW II C Rations for the cooks to mix together and stir into an unpalatable mix is something else!
Or the time, my company's cooks were discovered to have stashed many cases of wine in the front of their supply trailer where a casual glance would have not have noticed, was also another loud 1SG's experience!
The old days when the KPs spent 1/2 of their shift opening WW II C Rations for the cooks to mix together and stir into an unpalatable mix is something else!
Or the time, my company's cooks were discovered to have stashed many cases of wine in the front of their supply trailer where a casual glance would have not have noticed, was also another loud 1SG's experience!
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As a Chaplain Assistant, I realize I am viewed as a POG and to some don't even recognize it as a real profession. Whatever your view, my opinion is that a person joined to serve their country in which best fits their natural gifts, talents or desires. This should be respected by all. I believe the Army does set aside SF and Combat MOS separately as seen by their respect of heritage in wearing blue cord and discs, CAV stetsons and spurs, special awards and training. Respect is earned and revered to those units by opportunities to serve with those hard chargers. I don't do work for myself, it's a service to others by nuturing the living, caring for the wounded, and honoring the fallen. I believe the Army already gives respect to the gun slingers. That is why recruiting, Hollywood and most Soldiers see infantry and SF as poster boys of the Armed Forces. If you are in a unit that does not show the heritage and traditions to pay those respects, then you as a leader can make that change by using the Army values, heritage, and traditions to educate soldiers and make sure respect and value is given. I see no need in a policy that would create a "warrior class" when there is already one.
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MSG (Join to see)
Chaplain Assistants are an awesome field. Had a great one in Iraq that helped me a lot.
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Simply put, we already are. Take a look in the mirror, that blue cord, discs, and CIB are exactly the "higher regard" you're talking about. Everyone else knows they're only around to enable us to do our jobs.
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