Posted on May 19, 2019
LCDR Thomas Doherty (USNR-R Ret)
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According to this story, Trump is planning to pardon servicemembers and a Blackwater guy accused or convicted of murdering civilians. Should he do this, or is it subversive to military and civilian justice and training on laws of war and common morality?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/18/us/trump-pardons-war-crimes.html
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Capt Jeff S.
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The missing third option to review these cases on a case by case basis and in those situations where the service members were trying to protect the lives of their troops, I think we need to reassess whether the Justice System failed the service members. And in some cases, it's pretty obvious it did. There were a lot of things that didn't go as they should during the Obama Administration where people did things and literally got away with murder, and people were accused of murder and wrongdoing that were doing what was necessary to save the lives of their troops. I would like to see justice served for what went down at Benghazi and the Obama Administration officials responsible for making the decision to ruin the career of General Ham for putting together a rescue mission be held to account.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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I agree that anything on the level of a Presidential Pardon, essentially the most powerful and unilateral method of relief in the land needs to be used carefully and on a case by case basis.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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No pardon if military members are found guilty. Not the Blackwater guys, they were trigger happy.
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SSG Brian G.
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This is one of those tricky "no right answer" questions. A blanket pardon for all? No. That is just outrageously stupid. A pardon for some? Perhaps. A pardon is a powerful thing and should not be used like a politician handing out 'vote for me' flyers. It should be used judiciously and after careful review and thought.

Each case needs to be reviewed and weighed and circumstances looked at carefully. A fair amount of times things that are important cannot be admitted into a trial that might have had an impact on the outcome. At the same time one has to look at the process. What does this say to everyone that views it and comes after and sees a President that pardons a person convicted by a jury of their peers, based on evidence?

The rule of law must mean something or it means nothing and all and we may as well just do away with it altogether as it just takes up space on lawyers bookshelves and we could better use those bodies elsewhere. We are a society of laws and accountability. A person murders someone, should a president really commute or pardon them? He has the power to do so but having the power and using it are different things.
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Should Trump pardon those accused of war crimes and murders?
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CW4 Craig Urban
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The president can pardon whomever he wants to.
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LCDR Thomas Doherty (USNR-R Ret)
LCDR Thomas Doherty (USNR-R Ret)
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Seems obvious that "can" does not equal "should"
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Nope. Shouldn't do It but Not a Precedence Nixon Pardoned Lt Calley
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MSG Danny Mathers
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Let me tell you about what happened to Calley's company every time they patrolled the village. They would walk in and someone would trip a booby trap upon leaving the village. This went on for several months until his platoon snapped. One of the men tripped a mine and trhere was fire from the village. The whole platoon opened up with every thing they had. 2LT Calley could not control the outrage that was inflicted. They court marshalled Calley for not controlling his men essentially but labled it murder. You might ask yourself, how in the hell to I known this? I had a roommate that was in Calleys company. He told me all about it when we were detailed as guards outside the courthouse at Fort Benning in 1970. President Nixon did the right thing! Opinions vary....
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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And Nixon resigned. He and his secretary of the army appointed me to W01 in the reserves?????
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LTC Gary Earls
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Let's consider that the information is coming from the media. They aren't supportive of the military. There is probably more information that we don't have that the President has.
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LCDR Thomas Doherty (USNR-R Ret)
LCDR Thomas Doherty (USNR-R Ret)
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The information is coming from the justice system which has charged and convicted some of them
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SGT Steve McFarland
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What is a "war crime"? Is killing an enemy-combatant a "war crime"? If it is, what the hell are we doing there? If they deliberately-killed innocent-civilians, that is different, and should be treated as a "war crime", but if their choice was between killing or being-killed, "It is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six". Each case should be evaluated on its own merits.
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SFC Christopher Taggart
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Nope!
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MAJ James Woods
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If we start thinking it morally acceptable to pardon military personnel that commit war crimes to include murder in a war zone then how far have we’ve fallen? Imagine presidents pardoning individuals that killed POWs in WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Imagine presidents pardoning individuals that willingly killed unarmed civilians in Vietnam because he felt they were aiding the enemy though he had no proof. Imagine a president pardoning an individual knowing ordering a strike on a target that was mostly civilian just to get one HVT.
It should never be acceptable to pardon and exonerate a war criminal. Go ahead and commute their sentence but lets not start exonerating convicted war criminals.
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SGM Bill Frazer
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Don't get politics involved- Any President, Governor can issue pardons at their level if they believe it is warranted. Accused and not charged need no pardons cause they are not guilty. Guilty of war crimes and tried by who ? US, UN?
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LCDR Thomas Doherty (USNR-R Ret)
LCDR Thomas Doherty (USNR-R Ret)
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Again, seems obvious that "can" does not equal "should"
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