Posted on Dec 27, 2017
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SPC David Willis
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Unfortunately the ones that should feel bad don't, and the ones that shouldn't feel bad do.
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SPC David Willis
SPC David Willis
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SSgt Addison R. - Dang, yea I'm guilty of judging from time to time myself, but I just keep it to myself and give the benefit of the doubt.
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SGT Mike Bemis
SGT Mike Bemis
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This encompasses how I feel, good comment!
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SP5 Ron Rowland
SP5 Ron Rowland
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The VA is great if you get what you want! The VA is very bad if they disagree about giving a high disability rating!
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Sgt Melinda Pamphrey
Sgt Melinda Pamphrey
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SP5 Ron Rowland - Yes and don't ever ask for a re-exam because they'll screw you over and reduce any and/or all of your disabilities.
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CW4 Robert Goldsmith
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No disrespect to any "five-jump chumps" who never served in Airborne units, but I just want to make this point. Jumping from an airplane is inherently dangerous and a good landing hurts and damages the body. Jump school wasn't combat. Going to the range to qualify with a weapon is inherent to military service and the level of noise exposure varies by MOS. Any service-connected disability is just that. It's related to an event in service. There is also something known as Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) for disabilities incurred in combat. To suggest that a combat-related injury matters more than a chronic illness to Veterans that drank contaminated water at Camp Lejeune or was a volunteer for chemical and biological testing among other non-combat related things, or that a disabled Veteran should feel bad about why or how they became disabled is asinine.
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SSG Byron Howard Sr
SSG Byron Howard Sr
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The CRSC is not necessary for those that have been in combat. If you trained for combat you can get it.
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PO3 Zachary Gillispie FMF
PO3 Zachary Gillispie FMF
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I am a disabled Vet and I receive VA compensation. I dont feel bad about it. I was in a job that was high stress. From things I see and have had to do, I had a nervous breakdown. It is non combat but it is related to my job on AD.
Being a Corpsman was hard and demanding. I cracked and couldnt handle the pressure anymore.
There is definitely no reason to feel bad.
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CWO4 Tim Hecht
CWO4 Tim Hecht
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Spoken like a true member of the WOPA! Robert Goldsmith wise words.
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SPC Vonnie Jones
SPC Vonnie Jones
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Thank you for bring that up, I was at Ft McClellan.
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TSgt David L.
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No they shouldn't. Nothing about the VA says only treat COMBAT injuries. If you are hurt in peace time or non-combat and wind up unrepairable, you deserve to be treated and/or compensated for the loss of ability. Vets have enough issues without having to justify why you should be treaded in a VA facility, albeit a possibly sub-standard treatment path.
Please tell me that this isn't an issue.
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SP5 Ron Rowland
SP5 Ron Rowland
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PTSD has ruined a lot of good marriages, the vet can't see it because they think they are ok! I had no idea of just how bad my PTSD was until a VA nurse sent me to the mental health department. It was to late to save the marriage. Thanks to the VA!
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TSgt David L.
TSgt David L.
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SP5 Ron Rowland - Sorry to hear that. I hope you're doing better now.
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TSgt David L.
TSgt David L.
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SPC Wesley Griffin - I'm glad that you got help and are doing better. Welcome home.
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PO1 Richard Wilson
PO1 Richard Wilson
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But it does make a better story if wounded in combat than say burning shit in a barrel or being sprayed by a plane while on the rivers things like that sound better, But all who gave some is what matters on any VA disability claim no matter what you did for the country it Matters always. You just have to stand up for your rights as a veteran sering your country.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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If it happened during any form of training or non-combat, IMHO no.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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PFC Army Reserve Veteran - I don't think you understand fully what I put down as an answer, if it happened during training or on the job while in service, there should be sort of medical compensation.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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PFC Army Reserve Veteran - Not looking at it as a welfare, the fake PTDS claims are definitely getting to be out of control.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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PFC Army Reserve Veteran - No , they should should still get some form of disability pay, your America first thought is dead on center .
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SP5 Ron Rowland
SP5 Ron Rowland
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A bad attitude concerning the VA will get nothing but frustration, they are there to help not listen to bad comments!
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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If you were injured doing your mission whether in combat or not, there is no reason to feel badly. Not all of us have been in the combat zone but many of us have supported the efforts at home station or deployed enroute.
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SSgt Terry P.
SSgt Terry P.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown Yes,Ma'am,it is like workman's compensation,injured doing your job.
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LTC Jeff Shearer
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...Okay David I am going to kick the hornets nest this AM but here we go. We will not think twice about giving all the help in the world to someone who has never done anything for America, even worse are illegally here and are a criminal to top it off. I am not saying to not help them but they are way down the priority list, way down the list. At the top of the list are the people who raised their right hand and took an oath. I could go on and on but I think I would only make myself angry so I better stop for now.
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SFC Howard Holmes
SFC Howard Holmes
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PO3 Antonio Mena - No PO3 Mena, I believe what the LTC was saying is all of the aid we give to every damn country. Billions to Ukraine, Billions to everywhere in the world, and the countries and the people kick us in the teeth, and yes, this does include some people from Mexico. It includes governments and individuals, and that includes those who unlawfully cross our boarder, and it's not only Mexicans, or Central Americans, there are thousands of people from many countries crossing over.
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SFC Howard Holmes
SFC Howard Holmes
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PFC Joe Fugo - PFC Fugo, seriously? So you think that we should have NO boarder. You think that it's okay for the human traffickers to smuggle little kids over here for the Pedophile sex trade? You think that the people that it's fair to the people who waited and did it the right way that whoever wants to stroll across our boarder should just be able to do that? Well that's pretty damn funny, have you ever seen the immigration laws that Mexico has? Do you know what the prosecution is? and how stringently it's enforced? In case you haven't read the issues, you would see it's not a political post, so when you want to spew forth your ignorance, go on CNN's or MSNBC's site, or go to a thread that is talking politics and spew your garbage there - thank you.
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CWO4 Tim Hecht
CWO4 Tim Hecht
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Ladies and Gentlemen - I suggest if you can't discuss this topic like mature members of the Armed Forces we are supposed to be then don't comment; sit back and let the adults in the room post their opinions.
PFC Fugo - on the SW Border Hispanics make up the bulk of the illegal aliens taken into custody; but also represented were illegals from Asia, Eastern Europe, and Africa. My last 10-1/2 years working were on the Northern Border where we saw more illegal aliens from Canada, Europe, Africa, and Asia. The App Google Maps was "our friend." Type in driving directions from Chicago to Buffalo - clear, concise directions; no mention about crossing an international border; Canada would send bad illegal aliens by the van load with they pulled up to Canadian Immigration without legal documents.
I have no issues with legal immigrants; my wife is one; starting as a Fiancee, then wife of a US Citizen, to Lawful Permanent Resident. The process took just over one year and was not the hardest thing we had to do but she is here legally.
Often times people who are ignorant about legal and illegal immigration lay the blame on one ethnic group; when albeit they (Hispanics) make up the majority of illegal aliens here in the country but in any given year almost all the countries in the world are represented.
You, I, and countless others know the truth; ignore the ignorance!
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TSgt Brian Breech
TSgt Brian Breech
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It's amazing that I can't automatically give a down vote, but this comment certainly deserves it!
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SPC Tom DeSmet
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The answer for legitimate issues is no. And by legitimate I don't mean obvious. There are things like Agent Orange and now the "river fluke" that is just now coming to light. How about the Gulf War Syndrom. I imagine there are a long list of seemingly non-service related diseases that some day will come to light.
I currently have a failing thyroid. I keep having to increase the synthetic hormone, more and more recently. It is something that made me nearly unemployable when it first happened because all I could do was sleep. My wife threatened to leave me over it until I went to the Dr. Then, looking back in 1986 thru 1987 I found through the internet that where I was stationed in Germany the main plume came over from Chernobyl. We only heard that children should be kept inside. It turns out that many of the farmers that were told to throw out their milk and crops that were testing bad did not. The truth will likely only come to light after alot of us are gone. You may not be aware but if you lived in Germany from 1986 through mid 1990s for more than 6 months you can't donate blood due to this and exposure to Mad Cow disease.
Then there are the ones looking to take advantage of the system. I looked at a Facebook group where there are people asking for advice on how to continue going to college to get another degree or a master's so they can get a job more to their liking and pay rate. How can you police This? It literally made me ill to see this going on, and this is what I believe the root of the problem is! If you know there are people scamming the system, what do others think about me? I find it hard to believe these former military can find it so easy to forget what I got out of my time: Honor, Candor, and a sense of personal responsibility for my own actions.
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SSG John Eroh
SSG John Eroh
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SSgt Randall Farr - And there are those "Glory Hounds" who didn't serve in a combat zone or were support people who to make themselves feel or look better, claim to have done more than they actually did. As someone who was a support person providing inter-base communications in Vietnam, Germany & Korea, i'm proud of the job I did knowing that it helped those beating the bush to get the support they needed to stay alive. But for some that it isn't enough. I was exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam a,s it was used on & around our compounds to deprive Charlie of cover. Just lately I found out I was also exposed at the two CONUS posts I was at after Vietnam. But the effects, Diabetes 2 & a stroke, high blood pressure & now possibly Parkinson's, didn't start showing up till the mid 90's, about 10 years after I retired. My bad knees & shoulders I had when I retired and were mostly from my job which I though was an easy job but lifting those heavy power supplies and working with my arms up high took their tole. They only account for 10% disability rating but they affected my ability to find jobs. The military takes a tole on our bodies so we deserve any service-related compensation, combat related or not.
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SPC Tom DeSmet
SPC Tom DeSmet
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SSG John Eroh Thank you for all you have done!
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CWO4 Tim Hecht
CWO4 Tim Hecht
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SSgt Randall Farr - Randall - my recently retired (from Federal Civil Service in the VA Judicial Division used to tell me that there were twice as many Vets applying for Benefits blaming Agent Orange for their conditions as those who served during the Vietnam Era.
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SSgt Randall Farr
SSgt Randall Farr
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I do not have access to verify your friend’s assertion Tim, but it certainly magnifies the principle at hand... where’s the love in that? Thanks for sharing that tidbit. CWO4 Tim Hecht
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CPL Dave Hoover
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SGT (Join to see) Service Member + Service Related = HELL NO they shouldn't feel bad.
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CPL Dave Hoover Thanks for that insight!
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Capt Retired
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Not if they were legitimately injured while serving.
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lots of little things add up and you don't notice/feel the effects until months or years later. the vast majority of issues/injuries are "service related" even if the actual injury did not occur while serving. knee, back and shoulder issues brought on by years of abuse in the military that don't show up until you are in your late 40s/early 50s are a classic example. You can't point to a single incident while serving and say "that's when I was injured" but you can bet your ass that you wouldn't be having those issues if you hadn't served.
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SP5 Ron Rowland
SP5 Ron Rowland
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I agree!
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SSgt Jim Gilmore
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I had always been one of the "There's others who need the help more than me" people. Then I woke up one day and I was one of "those" people. NEVER be ashamed of your service. Part of that is getting compensation and care for injuries and illness suffered as a direct result of your military service. However, to answer your question in a word....NO!
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Sgt Gerald Templeton
Sgt Gerald Templeton
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I am the kind of person that was raised to think if I was able to work Then I should continue. Also pain is just weakness, leaving the body. Correct? In my mind.other veterans we're more deserving of the compensation than I was now. I am having issues. And I'm being denied on all my claims. No, yes, I do not think it's right either. I'm being denied because they say I should have been coming to them sooner if the issues were bother are me. You work through pain, that's what we do. That's how we're trained.
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