Posted on Sep 11, 2021
SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres
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Please do not comment if you are still serving in the Military in some capacity; a/o where potentially your job, livelihood, or position could be at risk.
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SFC Michael Peterson
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The military should concentrate on war fighting, instead of participating in a social experiment. The only color that matters in the Army is green. I don’t care what color your skin is, especially if you’re wearing the uniform of any U.S. military branch. Remember the rule of the LGOP’s: “run to the sound of the gunfire and shoot anyone with a weapon that isn’t dressed like you”. CRT will do nothing other than divide the military and cause tension between Soldiers from different backgrounds.
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PO1 Sam Deel
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Affirm. Negative on the Green. Navy Blue, all the way.
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SFC Theodore Dennis
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The Constitution of the United States should be taught, not Critical Race Theory. It is the only document that will educate the people, and the primary object should be the education of our youth in science of government. In a republic, what species of knowledge can be equally important? And what duty more pressing that communicating it to those who are to be the future guardians of the liberties of the country. "GEORGE WASHINGTON"
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SPC John Tacetta
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Yo! Big Head! Lovin' it.
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CW4 Guy Butler
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I’m not seeing this affecting my career, so…

Are you talking about the 3/5 rule in the original Constitution? The Dredd Scott decision? How Louisiana’s “Separate Car Act” led to Plessy v Ferguson and normalizing Jim Crow laws? Poll taxes and literacy tests? Red lining? Selma? Brown v Board of Education? The “Wetback Act”? Loving v Virginia? The Civil Rights Acts of 1957, 1960, and 1964? The Voting Rights Act of 1965? The Boston desegregation riots? Rodney King and the LA riots? And so on…

Maybe the Militia Act of 1862, the Black Brigade of Cincinnati, the1st Kansas Colored Infantry, the 54th Massachusetts and the rest of the United States Colored Troops? The Buffalo Soldiers? The Tuskegee Airmen? Dorie Miller? The 442 Regimental Combat Team? Executive Order 9981?

You’re going to need to be a bit more specific here.

For the military, this would be a good foundation: “Integration of the Armed Forces 1940-1965”

https://history.army.mil/html/books/050/50-1-1/cmhPub_50-1-1.pdf
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CW4 Guy Butler
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SGT Bruce Savage It was about Congressional apportionment:

“ Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”

In other words, every 5 slaves counted as three free persons for the purpose of determining seats in Congress.
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SGT Bruce Savage
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CW4 Guy Butler yes, and this was done to diminish representation of slave owners in Congress. We all know that slaves were never going to get to vote. Those representing slave owners wanted a full count. Those against slavery didn't want to count slaves at all.
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SGT Bruce Savage - Why does everyone keep fighting over the slave area? You nor anyone alive lived to see it. Now my Native American tribes were damn near wiped out. You don't hear them crying wolf. Pipelines threw native lands yes but not about slavery. Even though they had slaves, it was a way of life then all the way back to Jesus' day! If you want to read a good article, check out my grandmother? Molly Brant just google it. Also, Sir William Johnson 1st Bonnet
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SGT Bruce Savage
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PVT (Join to see) I find it funny that those who talk about slavery and affix blame for it never want to tell the whole truth about it. Many white people were slaves here in America. The first person to legally own slaves in colonial America, not counting native Americans, was Anthony Johnson, a black man. He owned both black and white slaves. And lets not forget it was Africans who captured, enslaved, and sold other Africans. But hey, we dont need to tell the whole truth do we.....
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Sgt Wayland Burton
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Everyone keeps talking about CRT as if the history of slaves is the only history that needs to be corrected. What about the history of the Native American? How often is the story of the “Trail of Tears” is discussed in the classroom? How often is the bias used against the “red man” discussed? The signs that stated, “no blacks, no Indians, and no dogs” were prevalent at one time but this whole political debate around CRT is centered on black and white when it truly is about the biases and prejudice that has occur in this country and how it has been woven into the fabric of various institutions. It is good to understand how a person can be indoctrinated into believing something is only one way when the truth is that there is more to the story. To know about those biases helps to be a better leader and team member. So yes, we should teach complete history not bias history or history that skips the ugly because someone doesn’t want to admit the truth.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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Sgt Wayland Burton I have begun, on semester break to study the 67-69 Civil Unrest, the Presidential Commission on Civil Unrest (The Kerner Commission) and Special Reports on TV that followed. They all have to do with the inequities that arose from Jim Crowe, and the pains, mainly in the Northern States who resisted integration. I actually listened to the people in both sides on news reports from nearly 60 years ago. Why did whites not want blacks in their neighborhoods? What would cause this to be fixed.
In every incident, Chicago 1966, Detroit 1967, Newark 1967 and many others, the riot began as a result of a civilian breaking some law and the police over-reacting. Whites almost all said, if you don't break the law you don't have to worry about the Police and the Blacks almost all said that the crimes or infractions being committed were not all that bad. It was actually worse than it was in the country in 2019-20.

I point this out because I went to school in an all white school in the 70s and 80s in the South. I was not taught the causes of the riots, I was taught about the results of the riots. I believe that Critical Race Theory is harmful and does noting to correct the problem. What we need to do is teach HISTORY. Teach it from a neutral position. A NEUTRAL non-biased, non-partisan, neutral position. History taught and learned is history that has a chance of not being repeated. Teach the causes of the unrest, and teach that violations of the law result in negative repercussions.

As a nation we need to reevaluate the law. If they were to decriminalize some things such as possession of marijuana, tax it, regulate it and use the funds to improve the infrastructure of the inner cities would be a great start. Police need to learn escalation of response. Civilians need to learn that resisting arrest never ends up well. Laws need to be enforced evenly. Further, we need to eliminate references to race, ethnicity and gender in all college applications, hiring and promotions. In the military, we need to base all promotions and assignments purely on qualification. To insure this end, all records up for promotion consideration need to have race, gender and ethnicity redacted.

We can not go back and fix yesterday, last month or the last century. We can not go back in time and change the pattern of racism that has existed. We can, however move forward to make thinks better. Dr. King called for and wanted a colorblind society. This very day I spent two hours listening to Dr. King. Teach what happened, as it happened, and hopefully we can grow and move on.
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SGT Bruce Savage
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Are you talking about all history or just the history that supports the racist views of CRT? Should we teach everyone the importance of Anthony Johnson in American history? Maybe we should explain that after Juneteenth there was still one group in America that was allowed to keep there slaves. My family is a great example of why CRT is totally wrong. You see my family tree has been traced back 600 years and no slave traders or slave owners have been found yet. However members of my family have been slaves. During the civil war members of my family held the wooded ridge that was instrumental in Lee's defeat. Yet as a white guy I am automatically guilty of crimes committed by every race of man throughout history. Well, at least that's what CRT teaches. So what history do we teach?
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PVT Mark Whitcomb
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Well said SGT
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You are one of the few who sees the whole story thank you. I made a statement as such but not quite as elegantly as you did.
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LTC David Brown
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I think we should teach the concepts behind CRT to understand the origin, the political agenda of those who push it and the truths as well as the fallacies CRT encompasses.
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MSgt Steve Sweeney
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+1. I can entirely advocate for further study of a subject for critical analysis. Though I am sure some will enter assuming flaws rather than wait for any degree of actual analysis.
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LTC Stephen F.
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My friend and brother-in-Christ LTC David Brown
1. Critical Race Theory (CRT) is Marxist in origin and according with Marxist constructs it seeks to restructure society in accordance with its principles.
2. CRT attempts to rewrite history, economics, achievement, etc.
3. As a student of history for over half a century, I am saddened and sickened by all attempts to rewrite history from a 'modern' perspective. History is best understood through an understanding of the mores, economic principles, technology, manufacturing and scientific social and military structure
Background from {[/criticalrace.org/what-is-critical-race-theory/]}
CRT is an 'outgrowth of the European Marxist school of critical theory, critical race theory is an academic movement which seeks to link racism, race, and power.'
"Unlike the Civil Rights movement, which sought to work within the structures of American democracy, critical race theorists challenge the very foundations of the liberal order, such as rationalism, constitutional law, and legal reasoning. Critical race theorists argue that American social life, political structures, and economic systems are founded upon race, which (in their view) is a social construct.
Systemic racism, in the eyes of critical race theorists, stems from the dominance of race in American life. Critical race theorists and anti-racist advocates argue that, because race is a predominant part of American life, racism itself has become internalized into the American conscience. It is because of this, they argue, that there have been significantly different legal and economic outcomes between different racial groups."
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SPC John Williams
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Teaching that any race is inherently racist is racist.
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SPC John Tacetta
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I certainly agree with your statement on its face.

However, it seems you miss the point. All peoples tend towards "racism". Hey, call it xenophobia, tribalism, or the word of God, the bottom line is that all people are prone to distrust the "other". Protestants v Catholics, the Hatfields v the McCoys, colorism within the black community, caste systems, Serbs v Bosnians, Luhya v Kikuyus and on-and-on. The question, then, becomes how to make the "other" one with us. That, my friend, comes about by SEEING the problem, TALKING about the problem and SOLVING the problem. A course of study/reflection is only one element in this process, but it's not the only element.

CRT (a buzz "word" if ever there was one) is pretty advanced and nuanced: it's not screaming that "Whitey is bad!", but that there are "institutional" formats ("structures") and practices that exist or can form that disadvantage or empower particular demographic groups. In its current form CRT is centered around America's black population, but it need not be so. More broadly, I'd say CRT encompasses "The Poor", a good portion of which is black because blacks have been kept poor. The questions that CRT asks are 1) what are the structures that advantage one demographic over the other and 2) how can we change these structures to be neutral with respect to demographics. In other words, CRT asks how can we change the society to make it more egalitarian.

Do you feel that CRT is racist?
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SSG Bruce True
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I am retired military and a combat wounded Vet, this racist theory has no place in the military. As far as leadership of Miley he should be relieved for delectation of duty and is responsible for the disaster in Afghanistan He ought to either leave and retire or face special court martial by the Senate for conspiring with an enemy of the state known as China. God Bless all our service men and women and Thank you.
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lmao...making statements without proof, just like Orange Pumpkin loser :)
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SFC Jerry Alexander
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now you should open your mind and eyes and see that the party in power right now are coming after you and our freedoms. We are in early NAZI in this country and anyone speaks up is wrong. Free speech is censor if it doesn't meet the left thinking. As for Jan 6 there's to many open questions that are not being ask. By the way read USA history and you well learn the US Government was and still the biggest Racist, and southern Democrat's where slave owners and started the KKK. Jim Crow laws where southern Democrat's also. Look up the 13, 14, and 15 amendments.
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LTC Force Development
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Fact #1. Some banks use to redline. Fact #2. Some state Universities use to refuse admission of certain people regardless of aptitude or ability to pay. Fact #3. Some prosecutors over charge while courts over sentence while some police lie on certain groups. All 3 have happened in my lifetime. Should we not consider the impacts and insure that there are no lingering issues within our legal, educational and financial systems?
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SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres
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The thing of it is that this is still business as usual in some parts of our Nation. They even have Sundown towns still. Also, some employers or even banks can turn you down. They can fire you too and they don't have to say why. Good luck fighting it without proof or money. Heck, business owners can kick you out, refusing to do business with you.

Thank you for posting Sir.
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SPC John Tacetta
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I think that pretty much sums it up!
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1SG Chad Mcdaniel
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I don't know if I understand CRT..contribute that to whatever you want I'm too old, I'm too young, its due to my race,, I'm not educated enough, maybe I pretend the world is perfect. I can share that my wife is Native American and because she is brown I've heard her being told to go back to where she came from or her own country! It's ironic it's always been Caucasian (assumed caucasion) women. I can only laugh and say she came from the reservation in Arizona so jokes on you. I know racism exists I being honest I don't know what to do or how it can be stopped. I will do as the Bible says and treat others as you would want them to treat you. We are all HUMAN!
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SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres
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Finally, a Senior Enlisted NCO with some wise advice! We should all treat others as we would want to be treated! Thanks for commenting 1SG McDaniel!
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Amen!
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SFC Eric Harmon
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Unfortunately, racism is endemic to the human condition. There will always be those that judge others based on their personal differences. I do believe, however, that those people are outnumbered by those that do not, at least in America. Americans, by and large, do not view people through a racist lens.
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I find your comment very funny! As I was standing in line to check out a Navajo lady was talking to a friend in Navajo. A lady behind her said speak in english this is America! The native lady turns around and said speak Navajo you're in my county. My father was born in Fruitland NM on the reservation AND HIS WHOLE FAMILY SPOKE FLUANT NAVAJO. His brother was a code talker. So instead of being upset about it I found the humor. Thank you Sir for the laugh.
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LCpl Michael Cappello
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Teaching RACISM in any disguise is just wrong. Please explain to me how teaching CRT is different than teaching racism itself. All it is is reverse racism.
Be more like the Marine Corps. We are ALL the same color. GREEN. As soon as we start palcing blame and making accusations, we create polarization. It is an US vs THEM mindset. What we need is a WE mindset. Shame on anyone who thinks CRT has any place in the military.
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