Should we remove combat patches to be sensitive to those who don't have them?

Just thinking about this some more, perhaps the Army can begin to issue teddy bears and security blankets upon graduation from Basic.

I know that there was a BCT in the 101st that wanted to do this. As a soldier who takes pride having served in that historic unit, it made me think, what is our military truly coming to?

Was this idea from the same person who initiated "stress cards"?

No, are Special Ops Units going to start letting non operators wear the tab, because they feel left out? If you earned it, you should be allowed to wear it.

NO NO NO!!! Are we to bow to the sensitive?!? IF we then do that... whats next, removing ribbons and metals from our 'A's because crybaby attitude, undisciplined and unmotivated, dont have the same... I know... lets all be the same, remove rank, and any distinction for airborne, or marksman, service stripes, no APFT score cards.

Go and serve or shut the f..ck up

I would hope their leadership takes this opportunity to mentor the young soldiers and teach them what the real world is all about. Especially, to instill in them that honors are earned and not just given out to make a few feel better and not "left out" in order to spare their fragile feelings. I'm sure the young soldiers will get their chance sooner or later to prove themselves and to earn their own combat patches.

Maybe the E1 and E2's that are complaining about not having a patch need to be taught what the real world is. I would hope that leadership would use this opportunity to do some mentoring and teach them that honors are earned and not just given away just so they don't feel "left out" and have their delicate feelings injured.

Didn't have to worry about BS like this when patches were sewn on.

Hell NO! Earn it, not everyone gets an trophy just for showing up. Man, I am SO glad I am retired from that PC Bullshit!

This is a joke....right ?

Had a CW-3 in Berlin get caught with a ranger tab that wasn't warranted.
If you didn't earn it don't cry about it. "GET SOME"

Hey young private, one day you will get yours. I have mine now, and you need to train hard and prepare yourself for battle. STOP complaining about my patch and accomplishments. SITFU. ARMY brat's used to be children of service members. Now ARMY brat's are the new infux of emotional privates. Sensitive little bastards

We become such a cry baby society even now our military is falling apart

I truly cannot believe that the Military in general would think that this response is remotely close to be the "correct" or "most plausible" explanation. How could you take away a person(s) earned deployment patch just because some around them feel "left out"? I'm sorry, but the personnel who have these patches deserve to wear them regardless of what others may think or feel.
I have lost some friends of mine on deployments (though sadly, I have not deployed) and I must stress again, these men and women deserve the right to display and feel honored wearing patches that display that they are the ones who truly stood up and fought, bled and some died for this Country and preserving our way of life.
All I truly have to say is that there are plenty of deployment opportunities that these E1-E2s can rally up for. If it honestly that big of a fuss to some people, deploy!

A fine line he is NOT following in AR 670-1 with wear and appearance of the uniform and military Doctrine. I am guessing he does not have a combat patch.

46 people said "yes"? Really? Are they they mothers of the poor E-1's fresh out of boot camp that didn't get a participation award for being in the military when someone else got an award? Hey, maybe we should all get the congressional medal of honor since we were all in the military when a SEAL earned his... Where is mine? Unfair, my feelings are hurt... This is absolutely ridiculous. I can't stand what has happened to the military. Stress cards, hurt feelings, sensitivity training... Sensitivity training? You're in the military, how about you grow a pair or get out...

I am old school! Since when do we care about feelings. Soldiers are paid to so serve. They volunteered!!! The "new Army" will have their chance to serve in a combat zone...I'm sure of it!!

Next will be your jump wings, jungle expert, drill sergeant, jump master, path finders, EIB, CUB and so on. We were til we couldn't where our berets in Germany on r&r because it caused to much attention. WHAT A JOKE.

I have to question whether this is satire. There are many Soldiers who choose not to wear their patches for many reasons, however to direct those who choose to wear them for many different reasons ranging from exceptional pride and loyalty to those that have fallen to those who wear it to give the illusion that they engaged the enemy when in fact they never wore their kit or even maintained a weapon at all times. To cater to ones sensitivity to the limits of establishing an environment that focuses on perception as opposed to historical pride that represents the strongest representation of human spirit can disenfranchise many who have lost someone or something in their lives that cause them to question everything they do or say for the rest of their likes. You cater to children and those in dier need, not those who seek and open door into life with everything they want for the taking without resistance so they never learn to earn their place in society. Its funny how for the hundreds of years we recognized our hereos therefore helping them cope with their experience which also has a healing effect to now taking that away just to make them feel as if their contributions to their nation was for nothing.

No. Earn them.

Those patches were earned like rank. Let the FNGs earn theirs.

What truly amazes me is a soldier who has been in ten or fifteen years and doesn't have one yet!

I needed a good chuckle today – thanks for posting

Really, you are concerned you will hurt someone's feeling? What the hell are you training? Oh I can see that pink panty Battalion. LMAO

Please tell me that this is satire......or that everyone is being trolled.

EO1 (SCW) USN.Never remove what you earned if they have butt hurt feeling go out an earn one!

Nope. Just like they cannot be forced to wear a specific deployment patch I feel they shouldn't be made to not wear any. If there are deployment patches let those who earned them decide which one tjey earned to wear or not to wear. Otherwise get rid of them all together.

Personally I know some who used to look up to those with those patches as if they knew something because they deployed. In reality it just means they deployed, not necessarily a valuable team member who contributed a lot to the unit, just that they deployed. Same with those without a deployment patch does not mean that they aren't good leaders with no experience.

I'm glad to see that as it stands right now, 48% of us have said no, and 49% said WTH?

Before my tour in Vietnam, I did not feel "left out" when I saw other soldiers wearing combat unit patches. Soon enough, I got mine.

He'll Naw, to the Naw Naw Naw, He'll To the Naw...

This is just craziness, why would we even entertain this, its not even worth a rebuttal.

As a vet who served active till before desert storm. Irr during desert storm. I never saw combat. No, a patch is earned not given tell the hurt soldiers to get over them selves.

Wow, heck no! It's the freaking military, not pee-wee athletics.

Absolutely not! Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen earn combat patches, decorations, medals, etc and should proudly wear them. Anyone who expects anything less dishonors the courage and sacrifice these brave men and women have displayed in times of war and conflict.

Hell no! Too much damn sensitivity already! I am sick to death of all the butt hurt!!!!

I joined in 1978, majority of the NCO's and Fld Grd Officers were Nam vets. How did I know this? and guess what I did, I watched and learned from them.

This is to much bullshittery to be real! Of course I also said this about the stress cards but alas they came and went.... So I do suppose some moronic BC has his head so far up his 4 points of contact he
Can smell his CSGM arse. Better yet further than that because he's obviously not listening to Top or else this bullshittery wouldn't be happening!

Better question, should you remove your nuts so not to offend those who don't possess them? The 2% who voted yes, please punch yourself in the face.....we'll wait..

Though I believe the Commanders' intent was well intended, I cannot believe that he didn't get the input of his CSMq

So they don't want the guys who earned something to wear it because they don't want hurt feelings? What a frigging crock of crap.
So with this thinking we should not wear our warfare pins because those who have not earned it may be offended?

If they stay in the military long enough they will get the chance to earn one. I didn't bitch and cry when I was a private with no combat patch while my NCO's had theirs. I knew eventually my day would come to earn one and it did.

Just a Wing Wipers opinion, but those that haven't been in combat have no reason to feel left out. Combat vets earned the right to wear a symbol of their service! It seems to me that it would be something to strive for, not whine that he has one and I don't.

So is this like everyone gets a trophy? Unbelievable.

Hell no!

I can't believe this happened. My mind will not allow me to comprehend something like that.

Bullshit

He'll NO! If you haven't served, why should I hide my service? Raise your hand and request to go somewhere, anywhere. That's to satisfy those who hide not to be deployed.

He'll NO! If you haven't served, why should I hide my service? Raise your hand and request to go somewhere, anywhere. That's to satisfy those who hide not to be deployed.

The combat patch represents values that fall under "leadership" not only does it represent that it also is the legacy of American military history. It is not just given it is earned. It is respected and treated as such. So the question is why remove something that is earned? To satisfy a Soldier that will in time earn theirs?

If anyone asks why I chose to retire, this is a major part of the answer. The armed forces are not supposed to be touchy feely sensitive softies, we're not supposed to even be politically correct. This is upper echelon BS, designed to grab a headline and spotlight the insignificant moron who came up with this asinine idea.

The only reason the combat patch should really be removed would be if you need to sterilize your uniform for a mission or you just feel like taking it off personally. I shouldn't have to take off my patch because some new guy feels left out.

There are so many Soldiers who come in and go to a Training Division to train or OC for moving units and don't have a clue. It is an achievement and award of sacrifice. How many avoid deployments because they are afraid butbwant the uniform. Keep the combat patch.

If you are training as a unit, then keep the patches. It's not an in-your-face thing, nor is it a reason for new soldiers to feel inadequate. It is something to aspire to. However, for MOS and NCOES courses and other leadership development type schools, then patches/badges should be left at home. I personally got tired of going to these courses, and instructors automaticallypicking me out of the class and putting me in charge, because of my experience. How is that supposed to help develop others?

I was in one of those patch less units. Frankly if it took a patch to let someone know I was a Blue Spader and a hell of a commo guy, I never earned the right to wear one in the first place.

Sure while we're at it let me take off both my tabs and all my badges I earned so the mouth breathers that never doesn't have one can feel better about being a mouth breather

No because my son in law has been in the shit 3 different tours 3 different years as a Combat Medic assigned to 101st, Rakasan, and 10 Mountain. Been there done that, kicking in doors and patching up wounded and evacuating the wounded. While others, mainly those unfit or unwilling to deploy sit home and make rank in the medical care cush world. Combat badges given for troops with combat duty should give precedent over those who have taken the easy road.

Hell no

No way!! The newbies will get there's in time! Celebrate the brave!