Posted on Mar 1, 2016
Should we remove combat patches to be sensitive to those who don't have them?
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"(Unit Name withheld) BCT ordered to remove combat patches during training at Fort NoMatter so the ones without them don't get hurt feelings.
Reason? "The unit just returned from Afghanistan and almost everyone has a patch but the large influx of new soldiers are E1 and E2s that have never deployed and they are saying they are left out because they don't have a patch."
Reason? "The unit just returned from Afghanistan and almost everyone has a patch but the large influx of new soldiers are E1 and E2s that have never deployed and they are saying they are left out because they don't have a patch."
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Combat Patch (SSI-FWTS)
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As a veteran who never saw combat, I would say to those intimidated SM's, "Suck it up Buttercup!" Seriously? When I served, I saw a number of combat veterans. Did I get intimidated? No. I gravitated towards them so I could perhaps learn what it takes to survive in combat.
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When you get a big fat shot in your ass and have to run for cover from mortar and rifle fire, you can have a patch. Too many seek what they do not have, only to find, when they get it, they no longer wish for it.
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I've had my fill of politically correct cupcakes and snowflakes. The world is what it is, and, as the saying goes, "Give me the strength to change the things I can; the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, and the wisdom to know the difference."
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PFC Pamala (Hall ) Foster
I say WEAR the patches you earned-and for those who just got there-work for it. Only one I had was 11th Brigade ADA-and some had 2 or more they could wear. If you want attention-go to work for someone else-IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ENLIST like we did and defend our nation
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more of the political correctness... someone needs to walk into a Jap Slapping Line...
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If we continue to worry about crybabies and hurt feelings, may just want to change the name from something that PROUDLY SIGNIFIES an HONORABLE, RESPECTED FIGHTING FORCE as is the U.S. ARMY, to something more suitable, more TOUCHY-FEELY like the LIBERAL Activities Group.
Maybe they should just GIVE IT to EVERYONE, earned or not, because removing it DUE TO WHINEY-Azz, TOUCHY-FEELY CRYBABIES amounts to essentially the same thing......something ELSE that those WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT can't be PROUD to HAVE EARNED and DISPLAY it PROUDLY!!
Maybe they should just GIVE IT to EVERYONE, earned or not, because removing it DUE TO WHINEY-Azz, TOUCHY-FEELY CRYBABIES amounts to essentially the same thing......something ELSE that those WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT can't be PROUD to HAVE EARNED and DISPLAY it PROUDLY!!
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Well I guess we might as well get rid of all of our ribbons and badges on our Class A uniform as well!!!! Wow!!!
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Sorry,but since the system won't allow me to vote the other way,I vote NO thru here.
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No. I don't have one, I haven't deployed yet. Doesn't bother me or any of the other junior enlisted in my unit.
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So I have the same knee-jerk reaction that everyone does..."No. Don't Change" which I spend countless hours railing against that mentality. Let me play devil's advocate a little and pose a question to the group at large...why DO we have combat patches? My Marine buddies always tell me "the Marine Corps doesn't get WEBELOS patches for doing our job". When I thought about it, I realized we were the only branch that does the "look at me" thing with patches, tabs, etc.. Should we adopt a more "quiet professional" mentality?
MAJ Luis Fernando Hernandez
Not only no but Hell No! We earned that patch and if the little people are offended, too bad. Get their rear ends deployed, go through the hardships, and EARN the right to wear a Combat Patch. I don't give a rat's rear end if the metrosexual babies "feel" like they are being left out. Enough of this crap! I also don't care what the USMC thinks about the Combat Patch. They have their traditions and we have ours.
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Being a former Marine, it took me a while to get used to all the superfluous crap on the Army uniforms. I figure if someone wants to be spared the trouble, join the Marines. The Army hands out awards, including the BSM as though it's Halloween. Never got used to that either. Fobbits wearing BSMs......
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MAJ Hernanadez, I wasn't suggesting Soldiers don't earn their patches. I was curious as to why the Army has all the flair. Metrosexuals, hurt feelings, and Marines aside...I personally would prefer a more sterile uniform. Everything on your body should have a purpose. That damn Velcro is absolutely pointless and does nothing but look like trash after the 3rd wash. Rather than give me a full mag holder for pens on my sleeve, just give me sleeve I can roll up. Rather than putting my rank on me like a damn bull's eye that forces me to commit an EO complaint every time I try to see the rank of a female, how about just use the collar pins that have worked for 1,000 years. As for the flair, I myself don't need it, but if others do to feel accomplished, that's their prerogative.
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No. I know before I had any, I paid particular attention to any block of instruction offered by those that did. It serves as a credential, in some respects.
On the plus side, in the BDU era, it would have been one less thing to have to get sewn on. Not much of a plus in the land of hook and loop fastener tape...
On the plus side, in the BDU era, it would have been one less thing to have to get sewn on. Not much of a plus in the land of hook and loop fastener tape...
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Will they be allowed safe spaces, trigger warnings and comfort animals as well? "Hey SGT ... ya you with the IED fragments in your leg ... Please remove your SSI-FWTS because the PV1 Newbie over there is feeling left out."
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Anyone who gets their feelings hurt because they don't have a combat patch and someone else does needs to return to CIF and pick up their basic load of vagisil....
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The answer in no they should not take them because it bothers the new comers. They earned them and deserve to wear them. The cry babies can go and get deployed and earn it themselves. This just wrong to force these troops to remove them.
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