Should we remove combat patches to be sensitive to those who don't have them?

Its just so much PC bullshit. Combat patch was well earned. E1's and E2's can have something to work for. Shame on the commander.

No. Next question.

That's ludicrous! Awards, badges and patches show a leaders experience to his or her subordinates. If a peer is jealous they need to get their own.

Oh poor babies get over it. then when you're up for orders with a combat unit then you will get your patch. If you want it so bad, don't get me wrong I have mine but I went to Kuwait to get mine. the combat patches are something to work for and not be ashamed of and if someone does not have it then maybe it will push them to get it. never take it off because it might hurt someone feelings that is a lower rank who have yet to start a career or anything, they have yet to learn the rules and regs yet so let them learn.

I earned them - They will have to tear them off my dead body from the uniform I will be wearing in my casket. They better be damn sure that really dead

My vote was supposed to be no. I never saw combat. Actually I've never been out of the USA. I was PDRL for a collapsed Parachute accident in Jump School. These combat patches are earned not given. My only child witch is my Daughter. Is an Iraqi Veteran.

They are earned .I would not want anyone telling me I could not wear a patch I had earned

Where the hell did this come from? I had 2 periods of service, with a 4 year break in between. I served in Vietnam as a Huey crew chief and door gunner from Apr 70- Feb 72 with the 1st Aviation Brigade. Then I was an MP from Jun76- Aug 80. I was never in a combat zone the second time, but I still wore my 1st Aviation Brigade patch on my right sleeve. I earned that patch and no one would ever have even thought of telling me to take it off. Troops these days have been PC'd to death and feel that anything that doesn't make them happy should be banned. Tell a combat Marine that he should take off his Combat Action Ribbon because you don't have one and see me when you get out of the hospital.

Hahahahaha! Fuckin' POG! The military is ABOUT combat. Get on the line or pass us the rations and ammo and stop whining@

That's when I request a written instruction from said officer stating the order to remove an authorized uniform piece and the rationale behind the order. If he's foolish enough to do that, then I file under UCMJ for redress of grievance. They're worried about the morale of the newbies? They should be more concerned about the morale of those members who will be instructing the newbies.....

Combat is a right of passage just like everything else is in the military. So should individuals stop wearing Jump Wings, Combat Action Ribbons, Purple Hearts because certain individuals have not earned or received them??? THE ANSWER IS, "HELL NO!" This sensitivity crap in the military is going overboard in the military. Wake up.... the military isn't some damn highschool peewee leauge sports team where everyone gets an award and hug!!

All comes with time and experience, it is simply not their time ,Yet. I attended several military schools , most of the instructors wore single patch, that is all they talk about, that was their decision

I have the utmost respect for those who have earned combat decorations or patches. I have only contempt for small minded petty individuals who dishonor those brave men and women who put their lives on the line to wear those patches.

In the mid-1970's I was stationed at Kadena Air Base on Okinawa. Serving with me was a former Soldier who was a LRP in Vietnam. He wore his CIB on his fatigues in full compliance with AFR 35-10. He took so much flack from junior Officers who harassed him about it that he removed it from his uniforms. I told him then that were it me, I'd have them standing in front of my Commander explaining their ignorance of regulations. It still irks me that he had to put up with that crap.

Really the whole point of having combat patches is to identify those in the ranks that have been in the mix. If I were a combat virgin I would want to be near guys who had been in the shit to learn from them and stay alive. In my experience you never know who has the natural skills of war just by looking at someone. Often the skinny kid who struggles in pt and road marches is a warrior when the shit hits the fan.

Don’t ask a Ranger this.

Too much sensitivity (nowadays) threatens mission readiness, if you ask me

The combat patch is essential morale booster to remove it because of FNP (F**king New People) is just plain wrong...

Hell NO! What kind of pansies do we have in the military now! Really? We have snowflakes for soldiers? If they get feelings hurt for something that simple, then maybe they shouldn't be in the service.

What the hell has happened to the military? I've been retired for almost 29 years, and it seems the Army has gone into the toilet with bullcrap and political correctness. This is absolutely unbelievable. What's next, no insignia or badges? Do combat arms insignia get banned because the support troops might feel sad? Do those that earned the Combat Infantryman Badge have to remove it because those without it might start crying or call their Mommies? Give me a break!

There are several thoughts that go through my head when this question comes up. First, this is not an organization where everyone gets a trophy. 2nd, not everyone was in an assignment to deploy or their skills were needed elsewhere. There is no shame in doing what is demanded of you. You were/are just as important doing your duty no matter where you asked to serve. During Vietnam, there were many soldiers who were deployed to Europe. Their deployment was vital in the overall picture. 3rd I saw several officers who came to Iraq while I was there, just to get their ticket for promotion. One was an O-6 and he needlessly put soldiers in danger trying to get his ribbon. I would rather serve with the one who was deployed elsewhere than the SH who deployed only to further his career.

I suppose everyone ought to remove their decorations and awards and qualification badges and tabs, so those without them don't feel bad about not having earned any of those either. Sheesh. What's next, everyone gets a Ranger tab because it makes them feel better about themselves? Oh wait, didn't the Army do that with the Ranger's beret.... JMTC as a POG who has not deployed OCONUS and salutes those who have.

Not just no, but Hell no.

Are you fucking kidding me get the politic out of the military.

Bullshit.
Those whom have earned the combat patch have every reason to wear and be proud as hell to do so.

This is disgusting. How did this even get posted?

Do mean the CIB, CMB, CAB????? Or the unit patches on the arm they saw combat with but are no longer in?

The CIB, CMB, CAB should definitely stay. In fact I am not sure they can be ordered removed. The other, meh, you are in a different unit now.

I do not have one. But I would never deny that honor to those that have earned it. As Mel said, "Suck it up buttercup".

Easy on air force. Just because they dont issue a combat badge like the army. We do serve in same wars and conflicts and earn medals as well as our brethren in other services. I know we poke fun at each other. Dont remove what has been there as part of a uniform because people feel excluded. As you said. Go earn it

First of all, welcome to the unit private, respect is earned, not given. Go through combat, earn your patch, and you’ll understand what it means and why I feel the way I do, when I hear you sniveling about “it’s not fair”

What?! I am a slick sleeve and I don’t agree with that crap. This isn’t the Boy Scouts. If you want a patch then you gotta deploy like everyone to a combat theatere