Posted on Feb 27, 2015
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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Is it time to unify the rank structure of the armed forces? I worked with a Navy Captain. After serving in the Army and referring to "full birds" as Colonels, it's a little uncomfortable to call as O-6 a Captain when that's rank of O-3 in the Army. Likewise, we have ranks with the same title, but different grades. For example, a master sergeant is E-7 in the USAF and E-8 is USMC. Since we use the same pay charts, wouldn't make since to unify the ranks so say a staff sergeant is an E-6 is all branches? Would are your thoughts?
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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No.

Because tradition, customs and courtesies. Also history.

And just because.
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SSG Financial Management Technician
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No, the branches are all separate entities with histories and lineage.
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No. Even though I could probably think of several different reasons, two of my more passionate reasons are history and tradition. Some may disagree, but IMO each branch has strong foundation of tradition that should not be dismissed by the good idea fairy. It is what helps to define us as branches of the U.S. Armed Forces. Each individual worked hard to attain their place in their branch and have a certain sense of pride which they all deserve to have. I think it would hurt morale to a certain extent by trying to "simplify" things. There has been talk for some time of everyone going to one uniform which I hope never passes, but to totally strip tradition would be a major black eye to Esprit de Corps.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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I have great respect for tradition. However, I get concerned when dismiss alternative ideas simply because "we've always done it" a certain way. We use the pay chart, I just wondered the ranks were different. Esprit de Corps is certainly a consideration, but should it be the only consideration?
Over the years, the good idea fairy (GIF) has run rampant; However, every once in a while even the GIF actually has a good idea.
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I agree that there is always great ideas with change, but I don't think this is one. No idea good or bad should sacrifice our identity.
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SrA Matthew Knight
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Ranks are fine the way they currently are. I will say however that there needs to be an emphasis on teaching people the ranks of other branches. I personally went through tech school with other branches so I learned them quick but I know many people who won't have a clue what I am talking about when I use ranks from a branch such as the Navy or Coast Guard.
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One word. Tradition.
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PO1 Joan (Tipka) (Plummer) Fisher
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The Navy's Ranking not only goes back in history but also displays a persons actual rating for enlisted and what Corps the Officer is. You can look at a Petty Officer's Rating Badge and service devices to determine if they are Aviation, Surface, Submarine, or Medical and what their Job is. Also the Fowled Anchor of the Chief Petty Officer has Naval symbolism. The Entire Naval Uniform and Rank structure has a long respected history.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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Thanks for the insight
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SFC Fire Support Nco
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I do not feel that it matters that ranks look different in other Branches, that is what makes each Branch unique and it just laziness on the individual to not learn the different ranks of who they will work with.
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It would make it easier for all uniformed persons. Then even people fresh out of basic would know how and when to deliver the appropriate respects when around members of other forces.
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CPT Richard Riley
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Unifying the rank structure is not going to solve any longstanding problem but it will squander tradition for the sake of simplicity .....
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Maj Mike Sciales
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I see a lot of tradition in our rank structure. Tradition should never be given up lightly. If we are going to change, then we have to go to the Navy Ranking system. The officer sleeve insignia are pretty much standard world-wide. We could not abandon those rank insignias.
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