Posted on Feb 17, 2017
Similar to the E-2 question, how would you react to a young 2LT who is being unprofessional with a strong sense of entitlement?
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Here's the background. You are an experienced Soldier. You walk in to the commissary to see a young 2LT shopping with a headset on. You professionally and politely get the 2LT’s attention and address the deficiency. They blatantly are rude, dismiss your comment, and tell you that those rules do not apply to him as an officer. Whether you are an Officer or Enlisted, how do you react?
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As a young Sgt I had mentioned to a colonel that his drivers whip antenna on the vehicle knocked out our comms line. The colonel proceeded to remove large portions of my posterior loud enough to shake the building. My ops SMG came out and ripped the colonel's driver a new one. Our G-1 LTC came out laughing at me for getting chewed out for doing something right, but not to worry (That LTC would eventually become my commander as a BG years later). Later that day the BG came in and I had just got our comms back up and was working on a task that the BG needed me to do. I heard him ask the SMG to contact the Commander of the 210th FA BDE and transfer the call. I never knew before that moment how much my Corps Arty commander had my young E-5 back, until I felt the building shake again with my Commanding General ripping the colonel's front, rear and all sides on my behalf. I honestly didn't know he knew, but you bet I made sure that general never had to worry about my performance. The moral of the story is, Karma has many ways of correcting Lieutenants who think they are above the rules, and even a crusty old colonel.
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I've been a "butter bar" and was fortunate to not have anyone dislike me! I'm in agreement with the comments here about being polite and professional. AS I moved up in rank, I did start to really notice just how entitled some of the 2LTs (new officers) were and would treat subordinates as lower class people. I eventually reached O-4 and still tried to be kind whenever I had to correct someone. I was raised by an NCO, and it was ingrained into my head that I'm not better than anyone else, no matter the rank, and don't be an idiot just because I have some rank!
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as a Master Sgt I would demand his name and unit while looking right in the eye as I am sure someone did in ocs!
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I simply say excuse sir how can I correct other Soldiers if your doing the wrong thing, and I say it politely but I say a little loudly so others notice, and so far it has worked every time, because nobody wants to be “That Guy”
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If you don't want to cause a scene, and the officer is being a douche, you can always just pull out your phone and take pictures, then send it to his chain of command and post it all over the internet for everyone to see. Anonymously of course.
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If you don't want to cause a scene, and the officer is being a douche, you can always just pull out your phone and take pictures, then send it to his chain of command and post it all over the internet for everyone to see. Anonymously of course.
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Private, learn to pick your battles. This is about none of your business, As a E2, you got more than your fair share of day to day issues, remember the difference between you and he , you got promoted!
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This story my be a little off subject, but maybe not. I was night crew supervisor as an E-6 on board an A/C Carrier. We had a new crew member as we pulled out for a 6 mos. cruise, an E-8, who decided that our military bearing sucked. A little background, the crew of our shop for the most part had been working together for 3 years, so we were all on a first name basis E-2 to E-6 anyway. He decided he didn't like that and at quarters his first morning informed the crew that Petty Officers were to be addressed that way and E-2 and E-3 would be called Airman so and so. Was he correct, yes, from a statutory standpoint, what he didn't take into account was what he would do to unit morale and cohesion. But I digress, my story has to do with this same E-8, as quality control supervisor one of my tasks was to look at and correct mistakes from the small ships that made up the entourage of the Carrier when they sent us film to process for intelligence purposes. The Navy in their wisdom had sent the small ships some very touchy film, that required very precise cold storage and handling. So, I was tasked by the E-8 to type a letter and send it to the various ships. I did so, and left it on his desk when I went to bed at 6 in the morning, he usually came in around 8. When I came into the lab at 6 in the evening I looked on my desk and found my painstakingly typed letter with a big red indelible circle around a word and scrawled across the letter the words spelled wrong please correct. Just to clarify, this happened before computers so I was typing this by hand with an electric typewriter. Well, first of all, I am an excellent speller and always have been, so although I was certain that the word was spelled correctly I looked it up to be sure and retyped the letter. This time though, I made myself an extra copy. I again left it on his desk, and went to bed. The next morning, again on my desk with a cryptic note, "I told you to correct the spelling" and again the red marker circling the word. Needless to say I would have been very pissed off, had I not made an extra copy. The next morning I left the letter on his desk, along with the dictionary, and the offending word circled in red marker and a note, "Please check this out before destroying my work, I won't type it again." and I signed it, Petty Officer 1st Class Wikert. Never heard another word about it.
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I’m sorry, but as a retired Navy CAPT, I find these conversations frightening. Maybe it is Army custom, but I don’t remember such pettiness in the Navy. Just saying.
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As a Company Guns, Platoon Commander, Platoon Sergeant and even a Sergeant, I took them aside, out of any prying ears or eyes distance, and had a professional direct conversation about the matter. While respectful, I explained how and why their conduct needed to cease. If that didn't work, I talked with their RO or my RO to escalate the matter.
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