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Posted on Mar 17, 2015
Social/Cyber Security vs. Physical/Personal Security...
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The military is focusing a great amount of attention on the need for cyber security, and appropriately so; but where is the focus when it comes to the need for defense of one's self. We're hearing more and more of the threats aimed at unprotected military members nationally and internationally; these threats aren't solely through cyber means. Infact some are even aimed at protected public servants, i.e. police officers and security agents. We need to add to the means by which we defend our troops in the CONUS.
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The right answer is both. You cant have Social/Cyber without some elements of Physical.
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This is not a one or the other proposition --- in today's world, the two are inter-connected.
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TSgt Joshua Lynch
Hence the irony of why we focus a great majority of attention toward cyber security and limited attention, if any, toward stateside threats and personal security that continues to surface against unarmed military members in CONUS. Intel reports show that possible threats to military members is an issue, as attacks have been committed in Canada and Europe by the same force (ISIL) that threatens us. Cyber security is 100% necessary, as social means are used to recruit enemy sympathizers; enemy sympathizers who unfortunately are American citizens at times. If there is no preference, then we should start talking seriously about arming qualified military members in the CONUS too. (I've noticed the need to adjust the discussion topic.)
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What many fail to realize is that the actions taken in the cyber-security environment always have a physical result, sometimes related to Physical Security. Hack a bank, someone, somewhere will physically draw out cash. Hack a prison, doors may open when they are not supposed to. THey are intrinsically tied together.
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The two are mutually supporting. Without a comprehensive security plan that encompasses both, you leave yourself open to attack.
That said, there is a disproportionate move towards cyber over physical and the balance needs to be restored, or perhaps the word I'm looking for is "established".
That said, there is a disproportionate move towards cyber over physical and the balance needs to be restored, or perhaps the word I'm looking for is "established".
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I can adjust my privacy settings and create passwords that will help with my cyber security. I am comfortable with my settings as they currently are. The area that I am not happy with is the physical security. I feel that the military should allow personal concealed carry on base with appropriate permits. If I know I am coming to the base, I cannot carry, even if I have 32 other stops before/after the base that could put me at risk. We are provided enough ammo and firearms to start/continue a war when deployed, but can't be trusted at home station?? interesting.... I don't buy it.
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Not to get crazy with terminology, but to clarify, I believe what you are referring to is "Personal Security" more than "Physical Security."
Physical Security applies more to Places (Buildings & locations) & Things (Safes, Papers, etc). As a secondary benefit, they tend to also protect people inside those places from destruction or harm.
Personal security or Personal Protection is what you describe above.
That said, Security is layered. Without a good layer of Physical Security, they can be no Personal Security nor Cyber/Social security. Personal security requires both to varying degrees. When it really boils down to it, this is like asking which is better Heating or A/C. It depends on whether you are in Florida or New York, and what time of year it is.
Physical Security applies more to Places (Buildings & locations) & Things (Safes, Papers, etc). As a secondary benefit, they tend to also protect people inside those places from destruction or harm.
Personal security or Personal Protection is what you describe above.
That said, Security is layered. Without a good layer of Physical Security, they can be no Personal Security nor Cyber/Social security. Personal security requires both to varying degrees. When it really boils down to it, this is like asking which is better Heating or A/C. It depends on whether you are in Florida or New York, and what time of year it is.
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TSgt Joshua Lynch
Thank you, and you're right, I do mean personal security/protection. I get what you're saying regarding heating or a/c; but, it's not like which of those is better... We're disproportionately talking defense if >90% of the time we're talking cyber security. Do you believe we're focusing enough of our attention toward personal security?
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
TSgt Joshua Lynch I think we talk cyber because generally speaking personal protection is something we do naturally. We talk about "safety" so much, and our natural desire not to get injured covers "most" of the attention that topic needs. Whereas on the cyber side, remember you have 4-5 generations currently serving in the government right now.
I joined in 1994, and not every office had a computer, let alone email. Were I still in, I'd be at the E7-E8 range. So my "peers" which would include senior staff remember the good old days of over head projectors and no powerpoint. The guys ahead of me remember mimeograph machines. Now think about the Government contractors who are one generation ahead of them.
What is natural for you, isn't quite as natural for me, or those ahead of us. I remember having to "counsel" senior officers back in 2000 about having cell phones in a SCIF. Then when they started getting cameras and recording capabilities....
So basically.. the cyber side will eventually subside just because the force will age, while the personal side stays about the same, and it gives a false impression of what is actually happening.
I joined in 1994, and not every office had a computer, let alone email. Were I still in, I'd be at the E7-E8 range. So my "peers" which would include senior staff remember the good old days of over head projectors and no powerpoint. The guys ahead of me remember mimeograph machines. Now think about the Government contractors who are one generation ahead of them.
What is natural for you, isn't quite as natural for me, or those ahead of us. I remember having to "counsel" senior officers back in 2000 about having cell phones in a SCIF. Then when they started getting cameras and recording capabilities....
So basically.. the cyber side will eventually subside just because the force will age, while the personal side stays about the same, and it gives a false impression of what is actually happening.
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While I personally wish to serve in a cyber security role, I do not think that is our primary goal. The military should keep dealing with physical security (with some OPSEC) for support. It is something that we do best and fits within our mission. Cyber security can be done by anyone (trained) and anywhere while our missions are done specifically in a theater of war.
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