Posted on Feb 22, 2014
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We have all seen it, spouses wearing their "sponsors" pt jacket, fleece jacket etc while walking around in public. I would really like to know why it is that "YOU" as the service member allow your spouse to wear a part of your uniform in public. Do you not have any pride in your uniform or your profession, or do you just not care that they do it? I would never let my wife wear my PT Jacket or anything else of mine that is essentially INITIAL ISSUE OR TA-50 in public. If she wants to support what I do and it is cold out, I'd get her an Army hoodie, not strip my name tapes off and let her walk around in MY Army issued fleece jacket. There is a discussion about Soldiers walking around in uniform after COB and "how wrong that is". So why do people think this it is OK to let their spouse wear their uniform and announce "my family is in the Army" or "give me special attention". And knowing that dependents are REALLY not so much subject to 670-1/ UCMJ in that aspect, is there any input as to what can be done about it besides walking away disgusted.<br>
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MSG Thomas Currie
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Interesting question, sergeant, now let me ask you three questions:

Have you ever read the law that prohibits civilians from wearing military uniforms (yes, there really is one)

Do you even know what items are prohibited for civilians (I assume not, since you are having a hissy fit over PT jackets which are NOT legally uniforms despite being included in AR 670-1)

Are you even sure that the "PT Jacket" you saw someone wearing was an issue item (not the identical item available from several retailers) and that the person was a spouse (not a service member wearing it improperly, or perhaps a veteran or other civilian). Was the jacket issued, or bought from the PX for $65, or on Amazon for $55, or bought used for $30 (same jacket all these ways).

I'm glad you married a slave, but most soldiers wives and dependents are not nearly as subservient as you imagine.

Spouses and dependents wearing military gear on post may well be inappropriate and perhaps even contrary to some installation or unit policy, but I greatly doubt that there is any installation or unit where this "problem" is the most significant issue limiting military readiness and effectiveness.
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SSgt Paula L Glover
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Family SHOULD NOT WEAR any of the military clothing.
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PV2 Infantryman
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What about when you are in public and she gets cold and you have nothing else? Is it disrespectful to let her borrow you uniform jacket for a couple minutes until you get to the car? I just need to know what is wrong with that we left the house right after drill and she wasnt expecting it to be cold and when we left the movie it was really cold so I let her wear my jacket and some lady ripped it off of her and said she was disrespecting the uniform.
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SFC Tracy Scott
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For me this is a big NOGO, but of course it happened multiple times around the house and mainly was a pt shirt, while I was deployed.
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SSG Steven McDanield
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You know, This has gone on forever. Remember, Don't sweat the petty stuff, but its OK to pet the sweaty stuff.
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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I meant wear not where .. darn word correct again !
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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'Scuse me Michelle, I sneezed and hit that post icon:
I've been home on in leave in the past
and been to the mall in Uniform with my woman friend on my arm .. we'd be walking around and I've seen a soldier out of uniform.. blouse unbuttoned, cover stuck in his pocket like a kerchief.. I hessitate saying anything .. not my branch of service.. Prob'ly just flip me off.. I'll chance it.. First I make sure my AF uniform is properly buttoned(pockets).. I hand off my AF bomber jacket with my leather name patch to my lady and go over to them.. And nice like I say with some sternness thrown in : Do you think Pfcs that you could tuck your shirt in and button your blouse properly and look more soldierly and act more soldierly and take your cover out of back pocket that's hanging like a farmer's kerchief and store it properly? They look me up an' down and across and The niceness has gone out of my eyes.. I'm waiting.. Then I see him coming... he's sprinting now.. and he arrives.. I step back, they're all his now..
he's a CSM.. with a rack of ribbons like Audy Murphy... He tore them a new opening in their carcasses and did it w/o raising his voice above a whisper. Then he stood back as they straightened themself out. And then the CSM is back in their ear again.. and steps back.. the
First pfc spoke up: I apologize SSG for my improper behavior and sloppy uniform, please forgive me SSG and I'll be on my
way .. the 2d pfc gave me basically the same line.. and went off and joined his comrade.. the CSM said he was embarrassed by their uniforms and their behavior.. and apologized.. No CSM, No apology from you, it's their immediate leader that's responsible for their cutting up, if he had done his job, they wouldn't have done what they done.. Oh, by the way SSG we don't where our cover indoors.. I didn't argue.. he backed me up.. (in the AF, courtyards, even indoors are considered outdoors in the Malls, unless that's been changed... they were considered out of doors back in the 70's and 80's. We continued our walk heading down to where we entered by J.C. Penny's. My friend had stuffed my bomber jacket in the shopping bag..
I just left it there..
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SGM Joel Cook
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My wife doesn't like to wear those kinds of uniforms so not an issue. However she does like some gear that serves a purpose. She specifically asked me to buy her a military camouflage rain jacket from clothing sales, for use camping, fishing, hunting etc. Technically I guess that is out in public as we often go camping with friends. The second bit of gear she asked me to get her is the mosquito headnet. She has three of those. No rules against this type of wear so if it bothers you that is just unfortunate. Unfortunately my wife gets 1000 mosquito bites to my one. As far as military family members wearing PT T-Shirts or jackets it doesn't bother me at all as long as they are clean and presentable. I am not a fan of any civilian wearing a field or dress uniform, for that matter. However since there are no laws prohibiting it as long as US Army nameplate has been removed, I will just deal with it. For a while around 2005 every kid in Killeen High School was wearing a BDU shirt to school periodically. It was a fad and they got over it mostly. My son commented that many kids just grabbed their parents BDU shirt out of the closet and wore it to school with US Army nameplate, airborne badges and like items still attached. Eventually the ROTC instructor put the word out to all teachers that this was unauthorized wear for civilians and shortly after it subsided.
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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@ SSG V. Michelle Woods; it's like the Preacher orating to the choir the same ol'-
Same ol' sermon.. most are nodding off..
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Lt Col Nurse Anesthetist
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Lighten up. In the AF regs, the fleece and PT jacket are both acceptable to wear with civilian clothing (provided you remove name/rank patches), and both can be purchased through civilian channels, so I'd struggle to find the BFD here. If it really bothers you that much, then the problem is probably with you... and you need to figure out how to get over it.
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