Posted on Feb 22, 2014
Spouses/dependents wearing your uniform components in public?
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We have all seen it, spouses wearing their "sponsors" pt jacket, fleece jacket etc while walking around in public. I would really like to know why it is that "YOU" as the service member allow your spouse to wear a part of your uniform in public. Do you not have any pride in your uniform or your profession, or do you just not care that they do it? I would never let my wife wear my PT Jacket or anything else of mine that is essentially INITIAL ISSUE OR TA-50 in public. If she wants to support what I do and it is cold out, I'd get her an Army hoodie, not strip my name tapes off and let her walk around in MY Army issued fleece jacket. There is a discussion about Soldiers walking around in uniform after COB and "how wrong that is". So why do people think this it is OK to let their spouse wear their uniform and announce "my family is in the Army" or "give me special attention". And knowing that dependents are REALLY not so much subject to 670-1/ UCMJ in that aspect, is there any input as to what can be done about it besides walking away disgusted.<br>
Posted 12 y ago
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I understand two things: <div>1. They'll do whatever they want and no one can stop them.</div><div>2. I believe they do it without meaning any harm therefore I don't blame them.</div><div><br></div><div>I find it disrespectful when civilians nonchalantly wear a uniform I earned the right to wear and a uniform I take pride in. If a leader tells their soldiers to take pride in their uniform but then doesn't discourage their overweight wife from wearing a PT shirt (contradiction in itself) then as far as I'm concerned it brings discredit upon that leader. </div><div><br></div><div>We can't stop them, but we can tell them it's part of a uniform and not to be worn as casual wear. Just my opinion...</div>
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Sgt (Join to see)
In the Marine Corps it is unauthorized to wear PT gear is a store. So regardless of whether it is a spouse or service member they are wrong. If you pulled that shit on my base you would be asked to leave and not be allowed to make a purchase, and I'm on an air station.
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SN Robert Evans
I am curious about one thing...Is it disrespectful for me to wear something that I earned so many years ago? I am now a slightly overweight, long haired bearded hippie. I feel that if some young kid came up to me telling me I have to right to wear something issued to me I would have to take offense to that...as I have every right that anyone else does. He would just be making assumptions that I am a "faker"...
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SSG V. Michelle Woods
Being female or not, veteran or not, doesn't change my opinion. I did think before I "judged", and I still feel that since it's part of a uniform, it shouldn't be worn as casual wear.
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Nathan Kelper
My dad died in the service. I dont see why the hell i cant wear his old uniform, to me its like honoring him
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My teenage daughter has decided she wanted a multi-cam top and a fleece. We have come up with a few good compromises:<div>1. She does not wear rank. (leaves it fuzzy or a blank square)</div><div>2. Branch says Army Brat (verses U.S. Army) </div><div><br></div>
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CMSgt James Nolan
I may do it for my wife and daughter! My wife, because she cannot stand the phrase "dependent", my daughter because she might think it was cool.
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SPC (Join to see)
Sir, my daughter (4yr) came down the other day from her room. We have bought her an ACU kids PC and she has some girl ACU pants along with a pink Army tshirt. She came running over to me and says, "Daddy, look! I'm a Soldier like you!" She loves dressing up in that outfit.
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SrA (Join to see)
I know my mother, who is retired now, gave me a "military brat" coin. Coin rules applied except the drink was coffee. I think its a nice way to have your kids feel connected.
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1SG Michael Blount
SCPO (Join to see) - I didn't make the analogy. My comments were directed strictly to military uniforms.
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Personally, I don't think it's right, at least not in public. My wife has put on my fleece cap when it's been really cold but only because hers was not available at the moment. My professional clothing is mine to wear and maintain, not my wife's. A couple times she has tried to put on my patches and flag after a washing, which I do appreciate, but I like to do those things myself since I am a stickler for details. Think of it this way: Would you wear your spouses police/firefighter/doctor/nurse clothing, which is usually very specific to those jobs, in public?
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SGT Jo Pop, so if your spouse was a police officer, you would wear their uniform in public? SMH!!!
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LTC Dominic K.
I have never seen a spouse or dependent wearing a soldiers entire uniform, only portions of the uniform. So to ask if I'd wear my spouses uniform if they were a policeman or a firefighter I'd say no...not in its entirety, but I may wear portion of it for its utility. There are portions of our uniform that are universally useful and spouses and dependents like to wear it, whether out of comfort, style, or pride in their soldier. I allow my spouse and dependent wear portions of my uniform, but never with patches or name tags or rank, but instead with "household 6", "Army Brat" or something else on it.
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there may be an equal reaction, but its a free world, right? not to mention that the person who is hit first has to choose to react, therefore the law of physics doesnt apply either. But this is about spouses wearing uniforms, not physics, and I didnt bring a ruler therefore no measuring is needed in that aspect.
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SFC (Join to see)
It is a free country; you cannot punch just anyone. Are you going to punch the homeless guy wearing ACUs??
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Have you all forgot what it is you are supposedly fighting for? For you to think you have a right to tell a civilian who does not fall under the uniform code of military justice what they can and cannot wear while NOT on a military base...this is not a 1938 in Germany people....get your act together, you guys are disgracing YOUR uniforms by attempting to limit the civilian's rights when you have 0 authority. Uphold the constitution. UPHOLD AND DEFEND, not trample.
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SSgt (Join to see)
This is about dependents, actually, not some random civilian who happened to score some gear at a surplus store. But hey, if you're proud of your wife wearing your running suit jacket out in town then so be it. To each their own.
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<p>If you have deployed, then you know how fast you want to get out of a uniform as soon as you are able to! WHY anyone would WANT to wear our uniforms when they don't have to is beyond me.</p><p><br></p><p>While AR 670-1 does state that the PT uniform can be mixed with civilian clothes, again, WHY would anyone WANT to? The IPFU is not warm by any stretch of the imagination, is NOT stylish at all, and makes way too much noise simply by moving any part of your body.</p><p><br></p><p>As much as spouses would like to think that they are "in the Army" just because they married into it, they are NOT entitled or allowed to wear the uniform or any part of it if they have not served honorably themselves. </p><p><br></p><p>The ONLY issued piece of my gear that my wife might wear is the black fleece jacket that is now outdated and no longer authorized for wear. Those have no identifying insignia of any kind, and they are warm and comfortable to wear on a cold day.</p><p><br></p><p>If you as a Servicemember allow your spouse (who has not served) to wear your gear, especially with rank and/or branch tapes, then you are wrong as well. Allowing failure is failure as a leader.</p>
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LTC Charles Sherman
It isn't like every MCSS doesn't have racks and racks of civilian-style hooah gear...shorts, t-shirts, hoodies, jackets, etc. My wife and kids always wanted those items before they wanted the issue stuff.
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SGT Alicia Brenneis
The PT uniform can be mixed because it says ARMY on it. It promotes and encourages the military. Its basically being a walking advertisement. However the only time I have ever worn it outside of PT is going home from PT and stopping for gas or milk. Not sure why anyone would be in PTs in in public (off post) the middle of the day stateside.
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LTC Barry Hull
Wow! AR 670=1 state that the APF uniform CAN be mixed with civilian clothing? I'd like someone to verify that.
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SSG (Join to see)
Back in 2005 there was a MILPER out encouraging the wear of PT tops etc because they considered it a recruiting tool.
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I wasn't going to comment. This is just wrong and disrespectful to those that serve. The uniform should always be worn with pride. But it also speaks of our generational differences. Pride and a sense of right and wrong do not exist in a 'me' generation. The good news is that there are many in this generation who do not prescribe to everything this generation stands for. There is hope for the future.
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absolutely spot on with the "no pride or sense of right and wrong in a 'me' environment"
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<p>I have only seen 1 specific case that I was ok with and actually thought that there was a twist of humor and I was cool with it.... the new Fleece jacket. Husband was wearing his appropriate (rank/name etc). Wife was also wearing one....in place of the name was a name tape with "WIFE". No rank. I got a kick out of it.</p><p><br></p>
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LTC Paul Labrador
I don't have issues with people wearing things that can pass as civilian equivalents (fleece jacket, fleece cap, PTs), as long as there is no rank or service type of patches or tapes on it. I draw the line to uniform items that when worn may mistake them for a service member.
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LTC Paul Labrador I agree with your point, Sir. Just this morning, actually, my wife wore her black fleece jacket over her civilian shirt and pants. Mind you, we are dual military, so it was her OWN fleece, however, even if she were a civilian and had been wearing mine, I still take no offense to it. It is a moderately warm jacket to wear in the cold, and aside from the blank tab where the rank goes when worn with the NWU's, one can hardly tell the difference between it and a north face brand jacket of similar design.
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The only time my wife would wear any part of my uniform is if there is an emergency ie stuck in the cold. She has my marshmello suit in her car in case of breakdown. She never wears anything else of my uniforms. She knows that she shouldn't and does not want any controversy. I have a great wife. She deserves better.
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SSG (Join to see)
In Alaska it is authorized because not everyone can afford multiple hundred dollar items for the kids/family members for the extreme cold? That's it though, only cold weather gear.
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SSG (Join to see)
even when I was a private my wife wouldn't wear any of my gear I am currently a specialist in Alaska and can still afford the proper gear for my family it's all about budgeting and responsible spending and having family members that understand the uniform is for service member only my wife and I don't flaunt the fact that I serve and my wife doesn't take advantage of that silent professional
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SGT Allison Burguess
I used to wear my father's t-shirts when he was deployed to places like Kosovo....it reminded me of his smell and it always comforted me! My daughter did the same too when I was deployed! It kept her for feeling so separated and depressed. The shirts we wore were not APFU shirts, they were Brown and tan t-shirts used primarily for bed and no where else. Maybe she had a deployed husband! Not finding excuses; however people find comfort In whatever makes them feel close to their loved ones.
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1LT (Join to see)
Everything we wear is commercially available. immitation is the greatest form of flattery.
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