Posted on Oct 3, 2015
This sheriff referred to Gun Free Zones as 'Killing Fields' and asserted the right to self-defense. Your thoughts?
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Fox News host Bill O’Reilly went off teleprompter Thursday evening to deliver a strong 15-word message to President Barack Obama: “You’re not going to change the Second Amendment. I have a right to protect myself.”
Where do you believe that the right and duty to self-protection should fall--in the individual or the state?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/02/an-impassioned-sheriff-clarke-proposes-law-that-can-be-changed-to-reduce-deaths-from-gun-violence/
Where do you believe that the right and duty to self-protection should fall--in the individual or the state?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/02/an-impassioned-sheriff-clarke-proposes-law-that-can-be-changed-to-reduce-deaths-from-gun-violence/
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Ok, Chief, I'll bite. Your last statement says it all. It absolutely is an individuals right and responsibility. The state (law enforcement) will arrive just in time to draw the chalk outline around your remains and start the clean-up process.
The District of Columbia Court of Appeals has ruled (Warren v. District of Columbia, 1991 https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case= [login to see] 125174344&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr ) the police, and by extension the state, have "no legal obligation to provide protection or services individuals except under specific assignments"
In Gonzales v. Castle Rock, the US Supreme Court held the "police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm"
The District of Columbia Court of Appeals has ruled (Warren v. District of Columbia, 1991 https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case= [login to see] 125174344&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr ) the police, and by extension the state, have "no legal obligation to provide protection or services individuals except under specific assignments"
In Gonzales v. Castle Rock, the US Supreme Court held the "police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm"
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SGT Sara Hodgkiss
I've never given much thought to the points made here. Thank you for enlightening me!
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
CSM Charles Hayden - Here's an example of how effective law enforcement has NOT become over the years:
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-1003-banks-lapd-gang-shootings-20151003-column.html
Foreign national gangs have even less regard for our criminal justice system.
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-1003-banks-lapd-gang-shootings-20151003-column.html
Foreign national gangs have even less regard for our criminal justice system.
'Cyber banging' drives new generation of gang violence
Crime in the city continues to rise and gang violence in South Los Angeles accounts for much of that.
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When you think about it, shooters have been targeting gun free zones a lot. Instead of wanting to ban guns they should be informing people on safety and proper use. An armed population is not where you want to go shooting at people.
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SPC Jay Peltier
of course this is bull.... Do the math, gun free zones are no more (in fact less likely) to have a mass shooting.. You just hear about them when it happens..
Look up Mass shootings since Columbine. You will find A LARGE percentage LESS in gun free zones then anywhere else.
Look up Mass shootings since Columbine. You will find A LARGE percentage LESS in gun free zones then anywhere else.
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SSG Edward Tilton
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS - It must be a horrible place you live in if you can't get to the out house without an assault rifle
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I totally agree... People should be allowed to play a stronger physical role in their own safety and protection in these so called "gun-free zones" if the reasonable assumption and expectation of protection cannot be met or guaranteed by state/city/county owned "good weapons" protecting these areas; otherwise, these zones only serve to become a congregating place for people to unwillingly be slaughtered with no way to defend themselves against a gunman breaking the rules. The Sheriff is on point.
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