Posted on Aug 24, 2015
Topless equality for Males and Females; Do you think this should actually be considered?
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Thousands of people paraded shirt-free around the world Sunday to push for laws that would allow women to go topless in public; allowing women to go topless where ever men are allowed. What issues do you foresee if this is approved, And are you for or against it? Oh, and please be civil with your replies as I'm really curious as to what you think about this, thank you!
As far as I'm concerned, I would be against it due to the immature goobers who may see this as an opportunity to "take it a step further". I do understand why the challenge for equality, I just don't think this is one that should be pursued, as doing so will only appeal more to the predators... Also of note, there are some guys and gals out there that really just don't look... "aesthetically pleasing (?)" going topless...
As far as I'm concerned, I would be against it due to the immature goobers who may see this as an opportunity to "take it a step further". I do understand why the challenge for equality, I just don't think this is one that should be pursued, as doing so will only appeal more to the predators... Also of note, there are some guys and gals out there that really just don't look... "aesthetically pleasing (?)" going topless...
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It's time to stop hyper sexulaizing women in America. Why was it ever okay for guys to go shirtless? They have nipples...
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Capt Jeff S.
They could protest with their clothes on and provoke thought. Frankly, I think they get off on being the object of people's attention. And it would seem they don't have a whole lot to do and lots of time on their hands for this "really important cause." @@
Progressive force of change? I'm not sold on progressive idiotology. We have a Progressive in the White House changing things. How's that working out? ??? We can thank progressives for the hundreds of thousands of babies killed each year so that women can have their reproductive so-called rights. Screw the unborn. They don't have any rights. They might be alive and human, but the courts have decided that they aren't people. : (
The average to below average comment wasn't referring to their breasts but rather to their overall attractiveness. One's attitude has as much bearing on one's attractiveness as outward appearance for that matter. Google femen and you will find a bunch of topless activist women making spectacles of themselves, and most are pretty average. A few cute ones, but when you have "F--- your morals" scrawled on your body, it's kind of hard to look attractive to a guy who goes to church. Just saying.
Progressive force of change? I'm not sold on progressive idiotology. We have a Progressive in the White House changing things. How's that working out? ??? We can thank progressives for the hundreds of thousands of babies killed each year so that women can have their reproductive so-called rights. Screw the unborn. They don't have any rights. They might be alive and human, but the courts have decided that they aren't people. : (
The average to below average comment wasn't referring to their breasts but rather to their overall attractiveness. One's attitude has as much bearing on one's attractiveness as outward appearance for that matter. Google femen and you will find a bunch of topless activist women making spectacles of themselves, and most are pretty average. A few cute ones, but when you have "F--- your morals" scrawled on your body, it's kind of hard to look attractive to a guy who goes to church. Just saying.
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I believe it's important to remember that just because a woman can go topless, doesn't mean most will... it just means our tax dollars will not go toward arresting and prosecuting a woman who chooses not to wear a shirt.
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MSgt Michelle Mondia
SSG (Join to see) - Yup, it's that simple...we don't need to make it a moral issue.
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SFC Nikhil Kumra
I think George from Seinfeld explained it best: men's bodies are like a jeep... strictly for utility purposes. Women are like a luxury vehicle.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis - As long as boys will be boys and girls will be girls (which, I understand, is getting more and more "blended" in today's society) and female breasts are looked upon in a sexual context, I don't think society would accept topless females in the same way as topless males.
I agree with some of the others who have commented about it being "normal" in other countries. Having lived overseas for 31 years of my life, most of that in Europe, I can attest to the fact that topless women are considered in a much different vein than they would be in the USA. However, that is a result of generations of assimilation and upbringing. It would take time for the US to feel the same way. In the interim, topless women in public would simply be a free peep-show for the males.
I agree with some of the others who have commented about it being "normal" in other countries. Having lived overseas for 31 years of my life, most of that in Europe, I can attest to the fact that topless women are considered in a much different vein than they would be in the USA. However, that is a result of generations of assimilation and upbringing. It would take time for the US to feel the same way. In the interim, topless women in public would simply be a free peep-show for the males.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
COL Jean (John) F. B. Good point in the interim, and I agree. Thank you for your comment.
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This is such a made up issue......or to be more appropriate a "1st Word Problem".
I really can't understand why we as Americans waste time with nonsense like this there are much bigger things going on in our country that need to be addressed. Â
Make it legal the "titty party" will run around for a few days to try and make some point....realize that no one cares and then move on.
Maybe if as a nation we were not so uptight these non-issue issues would not take up all of the time of our elected representatives and they could move on to more important things....like maybe making a budget, addressing crime rates, tax laws, etc.
If a woman wants to breast feed in public  let her (babies need to eat) but she should be tasteful about it......if she want to go topless...let her...who cares....I grew up in Europe and after the initial "culture shock" wears off you don't event notice it.  Same with going topless....once the initial shock passes no one cares...or hell even really notices.
Besides studies have shown that looking at woman's breast actually lower men's blood pressure and agitation levels.....so Win-Win......right
Amazingly enough you don't see women running around St Mark's Square or the Louvre or Vatican Square, or in movie theaters, shopping malls, gas stations, etc all over Europe ....why.....well it's simple most women don't want to go topless unless it's in an appropriate environment...you know like Church.....just seeing if you are still paying attention....but seriously in countries where this is legal it's not like there are herds of topless woman rampaging around. They pretty much only do it at the beaches, parks, or other places where it would be appropriate.Â
The only reason we the militant 'titty party" does crap like this is to get their 15 min of fame........ and besides isn't it time New York City got a Singing Cowgirl also?
Can we please just get this done and move onto to something that matters?
I really can't understand why we as Americans waste time with nonsense like this there are much bigger things going on in our country that need to be addressed. Â
Make it legal the "titty party" will run around for a few days to try and make some point....realize that no one cares and then move on.
Maybe if as a nation we were not so uptight these non-issue issues would not take up all of the time of our elected representatives and they could move on to more important things....like maybe making a budget, addressing crime rates, tax laws, etc.
If a woman wants to breast feed in public  let her (babies need to eat) but she should be tasteful about it......if she want to go topless...let her...who cares....I grew up in Europe and after the initial "culture shock" wears off you don't event notice it.  Same with going topless....once the initial shock passes no one cares...or hell even really notices.
Besides studies have shown that looking at woman's breast actually lower men's blood pressure and agitation levels.....so Win-Win......right
Amazingly enough you don't see women running around St Mark's Square or the Louvre or Vatican Square, or in movie theaters, shopping malls, gas stations, etc all over Europe ....why.....well it's simple most women don't want to go topless unless it's in an appropriate environment...you know like Church.....just seeing if you are still paying attention....but seriously in countries where this is legal it's not like there are herds of topless woman rampaging around. They pretty much only do it at the beaches, parks, or other places where it would be appropriate.Â
The only reason we the militant 'titty party" does crap like this is to get their 15 min of fame........ and besides isn't it time New York City got a Singing Cowgirl also?
Can we please just get this done and move onto to something that matters?
MSgt Curtis Ellis
MSgt Ronald Stacy This is America... As soon as this one is done, we'll just move right on into the next one! :)
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MSgt Curtis Ellis - When I was stationed in Italy we use to have to deal with this issue with our younger Airwomen ....I always just told them ....hey it's legal to go topless on the beach but you need to remember that the Col, Chaplain, base Commander, me, or hell your next door neighbor may be at the same beach....do you really want them or me to see you in all your glory?.............all of them got the message and never had an issue. Amazing how common sense can come into play when it's needed.....anyway....moving on.
Most people of any sex look better with clothes on. If we are going to change the rules we should make everyone wear a shirt.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
I don't think it's a good idea, I think it would interfere with day to day operations.
I don't think it's a good idea, I think it would interfere with day to day operations.
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It doesn't really matter what society thinks on this. The military has uniform regulations that we all must adhere to. Thankfully.
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Even with the uniforms and regulations in place there are issues. I wouldn't want to imagine the atmosphere without them.
Even with the uniforms and regulations in place there are issues. I wouldn't want to imagine the atmosphere without them.
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CPT (Join to see) - All the more reason to drop my retirement packet. What has happened to our world?
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Too much Political Correctness. People lost sight that being polite doesn't mean giving in on every issue, that differences are/can be a good thing, that we're different for a reason.
Too much Political Correctness. People lost sight that being polite doesn't mean giving in on every issue, that differences are/can be a good thing, that we're different for a reason.
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When you get to be my age, you want to cover it up. my wife feels the same way. Get over it guys/gals, it would create an insurance nightmare, between the normal safety precautions going to the winds just because someone's boobs are hanging out in the open. Under the right venues, I very much appreciate the thought.
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Never would I buy into this being acceptable. This is disrespectful to God, women and men.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
MAJ David Vermillion Thank you for your response and I think most feel the same way!
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I think its funny how we are devolving. Having traveled to many places where they go topless at the beach I don't see this as a problem. Nipples on men are a remnant from our early development in utero. For the first several weeks a developing embryo follows a "female blueprint," from reproductive organs to nipples. Only after about 60 days does the hormone testosterone kick in (for those of us with a Y chromosome), changing the genetic activity of cells in the genitals and brain. But by then the mammary papillae aren't going anywhere.
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Not sure how many of you have had the opportunity to live in Europe (Germany)? There are the sauna's and spa's there where everyone goes (Co-ed) and when you want to go inside one of the sauna rooms, you take off your robe and are completely naked, you also take off your flip-flops. You take your towel inside unless it is a steam room and you sit on it with also enough for your feet too. This is a norm in most European countries, I loved going to these places (not for the view because some of them were not very pleasing) but for the pure pleasure of enjoying the relaxing atmosphere. My wife is German, she says to me that if this sort of thing was more of a normal thing in the states where people are afraid to show anything and anything sexual is considered taboo besides in Europe it is accepted, we would probably have less predator's and sex crimes in my and her opinion. Now to be outside everyone and topless or naked, even in very liberal countries like Germany they do not allow it, I think it would just create chaos and car wrecks.
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TSgt Ryan Lee
MSgt Curtis Ellis My thoughts exactly on the car wrecks, I just didn't mention that part. :)
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Capt Seid Waddell
TSgt Ryan Lee, public nudity was legal in san Francisco until recently...
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/03/castro-san-franciscos-public-nudity-ban.html#
Everything loose in the country eventually ends up on the left coast.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/03/castro-san-franciscos-public-nudity-ban.html#
Everything loose in the country eventually ends up on the left coast.
The Castro: San Francisco’s Public Nudity Ban
“For many, many years, we were totally fine in the city without any kind of ban on public nudity.”
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Hah love all the male responses giving some BS "they're not even a sexual thing, gawwwwsh" explanation.
I say, ladies, those guys who are saying all of that are the real pervos... And trust me, I'm not different. But I'm honest...
So yes, absolutely should be a thing. Why? Because. I get to see and accidentally walk into boobies. That's why.
Ever see anyone trip, fall, and accidentally motorboat some love pillows? ..... You will! Lol
I say, ladies, those guys who are saying all of that are the real pervos... And trust me, I'm not different. But I'm honest...
So yes, absolutely should be a thing. Why? Because. I get to see and accidentally walk into boobies. That's why.
Ever see anyone trip, fall, and accidentally motorboat some love pillows? ..... You will! Lol
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SGT Glenn E Moody
SFC Nikhil Kumra - i will but as i said i would have to kill someone if they did that to my girl or your girl or daughter/ mother ect. they have nude places you can go if you want that
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