Posted on Dec 13, 2016
Trying to consolidate multiple retirement accounts. What company do you trust to handle your retirement accounts?
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My wife and I have a whole mess of retirement accounts (mostly Roth IRAs, but some other stuff as well) that we would like to consolidate under one roof. I heard good things about Vanguard, but I encountered horrible customer service when trying to establish accounts. USAA is also out of the question. Their returns have been horrible compared to my other accounts of a similar nature.
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Are you looking for a discount brokerage where you can manage your own accounts, or do you want someone else to manage your assets for you? I used to manage my family retirement accounts myself. Now, everything other than my 401(k) is managed by AAFMAA Wealth Management & Trust. Full disclosure: I trust them because I work there.
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Probably looking for someone to manage the funds. I'm out of my element when it comes to that stuff. I'm pretty much looking to set it and forget it.
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MCPO Roger Collins
CPT (Join to see) - Look up any managed fund you choose, figure out what the fees and costs are. Then match them over the past 5 or 10 year performance against a good S&P 500 Index Fund. It's not difficult to roll them over. As long as there is no sale involved, there should be no tax implications. Then sit back, dollar cost average future investments and good things will happen by the time you retire.
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LTC Steve Mannell
CPT (Join to see) - You can set it and forget it with TSP L funds, target date retirement funds, and a growing number of robo platforms, but be careful. Goals change, risk tolerance evolves, and portfolios allocated based on one variable (like your age) can miss the boat. Asset allocation and discipline over time are key.
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agree with all that others have said, very good advice, especially about being careful with "set and forget" because if life is anything it is unpredictable, so is the market, your best friend now is time so make use of it in your life and with your savings, if you are even a novice with MS Excel or similar they have calculations (formulas) already written in such as present value or future value of a dollar or annuity and a couple more, once you figure those out you can do a quick spreadsheet using calcs, this will give you a more personalized estimate, you can peg in different values as your financial situation improves and monitor it from time to time, similar calculators are available online from basic to very detailed, you should look at your tax strategies also but that mostly comes later in life, most brokerages also have a variety of objective-based funds or mixed asset allocations to fit your goals, just don't put all your eggs in one basket, be careful about stock tips from friends or "flash in the pan" funds because it's long term performance that matters most, fees and loads for mutuals should be considered also but if you're considering Vanguard you've already figured that out, commissions on stock purchases are a different matter and can get expensive but unless you really know what you're doing I wouldn't recommend individual stocks (or you have a great broker that has earned your trust), there is a quick calc you can use called the rule of 72, take 72 and divide it by the rate of return you expect and that figure is roughly how many years it takes to double your money, example a fund earning 8% will double approx. every 9 years (72/8 = 9) so your nest egg of say 50,000 becomes 100,000 in 9 years, that assumes no further deposits to the principal but the formulas I mentioned allow you to factor those in also, good luck
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You are Lucky You have enough for accounts...
some of Us have retirement income and Social Security while it lasts...
some of Us have retirement income and Social Security while it lasts...
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I know there are worse problems for me to have. My parents are both horrible with money and always said they would never be able to retire which prompted me to start squirreling a little money away when I could. I also don't know if Social Security will even be there by the time I retire. I'm over halfway to my military retirement, but the way budgets keep getting axed who knows with that as well.
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The problem with money in retirement accounts is not the company, but the economy. Most retirement accounts today are tacked to the stock market, because there is 0 (zero) interest on holding money. The last couple of weeks, the market has gone great, my accounts are all up and doing well, but I am still not back to where I was when the market tanked the last time. Find a good company, I like USAA for a number of reasons, but there are others as good. Do your homework, and read the prospectus that they send. Then hold your nose. and pick one out of the pile. It really won't make any difference if/when the market tanks.
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USAA is very good, even if you don't invest with them their customer service and insurance rates are the benchmark, they totally get it with taking care of the Vets, makes sense considering it was formed by a few enterprising Vets
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I've been self-managing my investment and retirement funds with Fidelity Investments for 25+ years and added T. Rowe Price within the last 10 years. No issues with either of them. Their customer service reps quickly take care of whatever needs/concerns/issues you have if they can handle it. If not they will connect you with an agent in the appropriate department that can. Only once did I have to call back to get some clarification/update on an issue. Normally, everything is resolved in one call.
Some of their funds do require minimum balances to open and maintain but most of them are no load funds (purchase or sell). Most of these funds have slightly higher management fees than TSP and other low-cost funds but with the average returns of their (aggressive) growth funds, you still come out well ahead.
You can ask them for advice on selecting a fund or funds that meets your needs: risk tolerance, investment style, timelines, tax benefits, loads/fees, open/maintain balances, etc. You'll need to do a little research into the funds that look appealing. I look at the fund's Morningstar rating hsitory, 3, 5, & 10 year returns, and several other factors including those previously mentioned.
Even if you prefer to have someone else manage your money, it's still on you to be smart about it. I'm no financial advisor, day trader, etc. but I've learned enough about investment funds, tax implications, estate planning, etc. to grow my retirement savings quite nicely. Finding an advisor who puts your needs/goals above their commission can be difficult but it is possible. Just have to research them and choose wisely. Don't be afraid to move to a different advisor or fund if you aren't getting the service you need or performance you expect.
Be careful when moving money out of one fund and into another. You have to do it the right way or the IRS will have a field day with your mistake (personal experience).
Some of their funds do require minimum balances to open and maintain but most of them are no load funds (purchase or sell). Most of these funds have slightly higher management fees than TSP and other low-cost funds but with the average returns of their (aggressive) growth funds, you still come out well ahead.
You can ask them for advice on selecting a fund or funds that meets your needs: risk tolerance, investment style, timelines, tax benefits, loads/fees, open/maintain balances, etc. You'll need to do a little research into the funds that look appealing. I look at the fund's Morningstar rating hsitory, 3, 5, & 10 year returns, and several other factors including those previously mentioned.
Even if you prefer to have someone else manage your money, it's still on you to be smart about it. I'm no financial advisor, day trader, etc. but I've learned enough about investment funds, tax implications, estate planning, etc. to grow my retirement savings quite nicely. Finding an advisor who puts your needs/goals above their commission can be difficult but it is possible. Just have to research them and choose wisely. Don't be afraid to move to a different advisor or fund if you aren't getting the service you need or performance you expect.
Be careful when moving money out of one fund and into another. You have to do it the right way or the IRS will have a field day with your mistake (personal experience).
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I'm a big fan of consolidating investment accounts. Fewer accounts makes for easier asset allocation, management, and administration.
There are three big areas to consider: Your risk tolerance, your timeline, and the cost of the investments.
Your risk tolerance and timeline will help determine your asset allocation (how your funds are invested).
The management fees you pay determine how much you keep in your pocket (Management fees include the expense ratio of the investment fund as well as any management fees you might pay to someone to manage your investments for you - you must consider all associated costs before making any investment decision).
This study from Vanguard shows the impact of management fees on investments:
http://vanguardblog.com/2011/10/28/stopping-the-silent-killer-of-returns/
The short and skinny - a 1% increase in the fees you pay will reduce your returns by 25% over a 30 year period. A 2% increase in fees erases 44.8% of your returns over the same 30 year period.
This is why so many experts recommend investing in low-cost index funds - they are substantially less-expensive than managed investment funds, and often have similar or better returns.
Keep these three things in mind and you will do fine.
There are three big areas to consider: Your risk tolerance, your timeline, and the cost of the investments.
Your risk tolerance and timeline will help determine your asset allocation (how your funds are invested).
The management fees you pay determine how much you keep in your pocket (Management fees include the expense ratio of the investment fund as well as any management fees you might pay to someone to manage your investments for you - you must consider all associated costs before making any investment decision).
This study from Vanguard shows the impact of management fees on investments:
http://vanguardblog.com/2011/10/28/stopping-the-silent-killer-of-returns/
The short and skinny - a 1% increase in the fees you pay will reduce your returns by 25% over a 30 year period. A 2% increase in fees erases 44.8% of your returns over the same 30 year period.
This is why so many experts recommend investing in low-cost index funds - they are substantially less-expensive than managed investment funds, and often have similar or better returns.
Keep these three things in mind and you will do fine.
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I moved my "stuff" from USAA to Charles Schwab. We sold most of our USAA Mutual Funds for ETF. Like you said, not doing so well. I have an independent financial planner that helps me with the decisions.
Always consider the fees for buying trading and selling + reputation of the bank/investment company.
Always consider the fees for buying trading and selling + reputation of the bank/investment company.
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CPT (Join to see) I forget to mention automated investing services or robo-advisory services like Betterment, Wealthfront, Acorn. I opened an account with Wealthfront about a year ago with 10k just to get a feel for the actual method and models. They charge lower fees (25 or 30 basis points) but you will do everything via web via self-service and accept their automated risk assessment methodology and limited reporting. I like the ability to compare my own portfolio with what Wealthfront recommends and sometimes I find they made a choice that I use for my own portfolio to track a segment of the market. Just another option to consider.
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My company was recently acquired and our old John Hancock accounts are closed and we now use Fidelity. I need to rollover my JH and I am thinking about giving these guys a try: https://www.wealthfront.com/.
I am going to give the automated investment arena a try.
I am going to give the automated investment arena a try.
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Lt. Beggs I would suggest that you and your wife interview some financial planners in your community. Start by asking family and friends who they use. They may not tell you the truth about their feelings about the planners, especially if they have had a not so good experience. Also check with your tax person. Get to know the ones that seem like you could work with them. Do not be in a rush to move your money around. Investments are long term, no rush.
Make sure that the planners are licensed and have at least one certification.
I have had planners in big and small firms. For the past few years I have been with a planner who works at LPL Financial.
Make sure that the planners are licensed and have at least one certification.
I have had planners in big and small firms. For the past few years I have been with a planner who works at LPL Financial.
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