Posted on Jul 31, 2015
U.S. intelligence assessments conclude that the Islamic State has not been weakened by U.S.-led bombing campaign. Time for a new approach?
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After billions of dollars spent and more than 10,000 extremist fighters killed, the Islamic State group is fundamentally no weaker than it was when the U.S.-led bombing campaign began a year ago, American intelligence agencies have concluded.
The military campaign has prevented Iraq's collapse and put the Islamic State under increasing pressure in northern Syria, particularly squeezing its self-proclaimed capital in Raqqa. But intelligence analysts see the overall situation as a strategic stalemate: The Islamic State remains a well-funded extremist army able to replenish its ranks with foreign jihadis as quickly as the U.S. can eliminate them. Meanwhile, the group has expanded to other countries, including Libya, Egypt's Sinai Peninsula and Afghanistan.
The assessments by the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency and others appear to contradict the optimistic line taken by the Obama administration's special envoy, retired Gen. John Allen, who told a forum in Aspen, Colorado, last week that "ISIS is losing" in Iraq and Syria. The intelligence was described by officials who would not be named because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.
"We've seen no meaningful degradation in their numbers," a defense official said, citing intelligence estimates that put the group's total strength at between 20,000 and 30,000, the same estimate as last August when the airstrikes began.
The Islamic State's staying power also raises questions about the administration's approach to the threat that the group poses to the U.S. and its allies. Although officials do not believe it is planning complex attacks on the West from its territory, the group's call to Western Muslims to kill at home has become a serious problem, FBI Director James Comey and other officials say.
Yet under the Obama administration's campaign of bombing and training, which prohibits American troops from accompanying fighters into combat or directing air strikes from the ground, it could take a decade to drive the Islamic State from its safe havens, analysts say. The administration is adamant that it will commit no U.S. ground troops to the fight despite calls from some in Congress to do so.
The U.S.-led coalition and its Syrian and Kurdish allies on the ground have made some inroads. The Islamic State has lost 9.4 percent of its territory in the first six months of 2015, according to an analysis by the conflict monitoring group IHS. And the military campaign has arrested the sense of momentum and inevitability created by the group's stunning advances last year, leaving the combination of Sunni religious extremists and former Saddam Hussein loyalists unable to grow its forces or continue its surge.
"In Raqqa, they are being slowly strangled," said an activist who fled Raqqa earlier this year and spoke on condition of anonymity to protect relatives and friends who remain there. "There is no longer a feeling that Raqqa is a safe haven for the group."
A Delta Force raid in Syria that killed Islamic State financier Abu Sayyaf in May also has resulted in a well of intelligence about the group's structure and finances, U.S. officials say. His wife, held in Iraq, has been cooperating with interrogators.
Syrian Kurdish fighters and their allies have wrested most of the northern Syria border from the Islamic State group. In June, the U.S.-backed alliance captured the border town of Tal Abyad, which for more than a year had been the militants' most vital direct supply route from Turkey. The Kurds also took the town of Ein Issa, a hub for IS movements and supply lines only 35 miles north of Raqqa.
As a result, the militants have had to take a more circuitous smuggling path through a stretch of about 60 miles they still control along the Turkish border. A plan announced this week for a U.S.-Turkish "safe zone" envisages driving the Islamic State group out of those areas as well, using Syrian rebels backed by airstrikes.
In Raqqa, U.S. coalition bombs pound the group's positions and target its leaders with increasing regularity. The militants' movements have been hampered by strikes against bridges, and some fighters are sending their families away to safer ground.
In early July, a wave of strikes in 24 hours destroyed 18 overpasses and a number of roads used by the group in and around Raqqa.
Reflecting IS unease, the group has taken exceptional measures against residents of Raqqa the past two weeks, activists say. It has moved to shut down private Internet access for residents, arrested suspected spies and set up security cameras in the streets. Patrols by its "morals police" have decreased because fighters are needed on the front lines, the activists say.
But American intelligence officials and other experts say that in the big picture, the Islamic State is hanging tough.
"The pressure on Raqqa is significant, and it's an important thing to watch, but looking at the overall picture, ISIS is mostly in the same place," said Harleen Gambhir, a counterterrorism analyst at Institute for the Study of War, a Washington think tank. "Overall ISIS still retains the ability to plan and execute phased conventional military campaigns and terrorist attacks."
In Iraq, the Islamic State's seizure of the strategically important provincial capital of Ramadi has so far stood. Although U.S. officials have said it is crucial that the government in Baghdad win back disaffected Sunnis, there is little sign of that happening. American-led efforts to train Syrian rebels to fight the Islamic State have produced a grand total of 60 vetted fighters.
The group has adjusted its tactics to thwart a U.S. bombing campaign that tries to avoid civilian casualties, officials say. Fighters no longer move around in easily targeted armored columns; they embed themselves among women and children, and they communicate through couriers to thwart eavesdropping and geolocation, the defense official said.
Oil continues to be a major revenue source. By one estimate, the Islamic State is clearing $500 million per year from oil sales, said Daniel Glaser, assistant secretary for terrorist financing at the Treasury Department. That's on top of as much as $1 billion in cash the group seized from banks in its territory.
Although the U.S. has been bombing oil infrastructure, the militants have been adept at rebuilding oil refining, drilling and trading capacity, the defense official said.
"ISIL has plenty of money," Glaser said last week, more than enough to meet a payroll he estimated at a high of $360 million a year.
Glaser said the U.S. was gradually squeezing the group's finances through sanctions, military strikes and other means, but he acknowledged it would take time.
Ahmad al-Ahmad, a Syrian journalist in Hama province who heads an opposition media outfit called Syrian Press Center, said he did not expect recent setbacks to seriously alter the group's fortunes.
"IS moves with a very intelligent strategy which its fighters call the lizard strategy," he said. "They emerge in one place, then they disappear and pop up in another place."
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/07/31/despite-bombing-no-weaker-than-year-ago/30924535/
The military campaign has prevented Iraq's collapse and put the Islamic State under increasing pressure in northern Syria, particularly squeezing its self-proclaimed capital in Raqqa. But intelligence analysts see the overall situation as a strategic stalemate: The Islamic State remains a well-funded extremist army able to replenish its ranks with foreign jihadis as quickly as the U.S. can eliminate them. Meanwhile, the group has expanded to other countries, including Libya, Egypt's Sinai Peninsula and Afghanistan.
The assessments by the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency and others appear to contradict the optimistic line taken by the Obama administration's special envoy, retired Gen. John Allen, who told a forum in Aspen, Colorado, last week that "ISIS is losing" in Iraq and Syria. The intelligence was described by officials who would not be named because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.
"We've seen no meaningful degradation in their numbers," a defense official said, citing intelligence estimates that put the group's total strength at between 20,000 and 30,000, the same estimate as last August when the airstrikes began.
The Islamic State's staying power also raises questions about the administration's approach to the threat that the group poses to the U.S. and its allies. Although officials do not believe it is planning complex attacks on the West from its territory, the group's call to Western Muslims to kill at home has become a serious problem, FBI Director James Comey and other officials say.
Yet under the Obama administration's campaign of bombing and training, which prohibits American troops from accompanying fighters into combat or directing air strikes from the ground, it could take a decade to drive the Islamic State from its safe havens, analysts say. The administration is adamant that it will commit no U.S. ground troops to the fight despite calls from some in Congress to do so.
The U.S.-led coalition and its Syrian and Kurdish allies on the ground have made some inroads. The Islamic State has lost 9.4 percent of its territory in the first six months of 2015, according to an analysis by the conflict monitoring group IHS. And the military campaign has arrested the sense of momentum and inevitability created by the group's stunning advances last year, leaving the combination of Sunni religious extremists and former Saddam Hussein loyalists unable to grow its forces or continue its surge.
"In Raqqa, they are being slowly strangled," said an activist who fled Raqqa earlier this year and spoke on condition of anonymity to protect relatives and friends who remain there. "There is no longer a feeling that Raqqa is a safe haven for the group."
A Delta Force raid in Syria that killed Islamic State financier Abu Sayyaf in May also has resulted in a well of intelligence about the group's structure and finances, U.S. officials say. His wife, held in Iraq, has been cooperating with interrogators.
Syrian Kurdish fighters and their allies have wrested most of the northern Syria border from the Islamic State group. In June, the U.S.-backed alliance captured the border town of Tal Abyad, which for more than a year had been the militants' most vital direct supply route from Turkey. The Kurds also took the town of Ein Issa, a hub for IS movements and supply lines only 35 miles north of Raqqa.
As a result, the militants have had to take a more circuitous smuggling path through a stretch of about 60 miles they still control along the Turkish border. A plan announced this week for a U.S.-Turkish "safe zone" envisages driving the Islamic State group out of those areas as well, using Syrian rebels backed by airstrikes.
In Raqqa, U.S. coalition bombs pound the group's positions and target its leaders with increasing regularity. The militants' movements have been hampered by strikes against bridges, and some fighters are sending their families away to safer ground.
In early July, a wave of strikes in 24 hours destroyed 18 overpasses and a number of roads used by the group in and around Raqqa.
Reflecting IS unease, the group has taken exceptional measures against residents of Raqqa the past two weeks, activists say. It has moved to shut down private Internet access for residents, arrested suspected spies and set up security cameras in the streets. Patrols by its "morals police" have decreased because fighters are needed on the front lines, the activists say.
But American intelligence officials and other experts say that in the big picture, the Islamic State is hanging tough.
"The pressure on Raqqa is significant, and it's an important thing to watch, but looking at the overall picture, ISIS is mostly in the same place," said Harleen Gambhir, a counterterrorism analyst at Institute for the Study of War, a Washington think tank. "Overall ISIS still retains the ability to plan and execute phased conventional military campaigns and terrorist attacks."
In Iraq, the Islamic State's seizure of the strategically important provincial capital of Ramadi has so far stood. Although U.S. officials have said it is crucial that the government in Baghdad win back disaffected Sunnis, there is little sign of that happening. American-led efforts to train Syrian rebels to fight the Islamic State have produced a grand total of 60 vetted fighters.
The group has adjusted its tactics to thwart a U.S. bombing campaign that tries to avoid civilian casualties, officials say. Fighters no longer move around in easily targeted armored columns; they embed themselves among women and children, and they communicate through couriers to thwart eavesdropping and geolocation, the defense official said.
Oil continues to be a major revenue source. By one estimate, the Islamic State is clearing $500 million per year from oil sales, said Daniel Glaser, assistant secretary for terrorist financing at the Treasury Department. That's on top of as much as $1 billion in cash the group seized from banks in its territory.
Although the U.S. has been bombing oil infrastructure, the militants have been adept at rebuilding oil refining, drilling and trading capacity, the defense official said.
"ISIL has plenty of money," Glaser said last week, more than enough to meet a payroll he estimated at a high of $360 million a year.
Glaser said the U.S. was gradually squeezing the group's finances through sanctions, military strikes and other means, but he acknowledged it would take time.
Ahmad al-Ahmad, a Syrian journalist in Hama province who heads an opposition media outfit called Syrian Press Center, said he did not expect recent setbacks to seriously alter the group's fortunes.
"IS moves with a very intelligent strategy which its fighters call the lizard strategy," he said. "They emerge in one place, then they disappear and pop up in another place."
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/07/31/despite-bombing-no-weaker-than-year-ago/30924535/
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Blame congress, what would happen if the President sent in ground troops? He'd be lynched thats what. All we see and hear is complaining and gripping, no solutions.
The bottom line is, when will the Middle East take responsibility for their sovereignty?
Makes me wonder, if Sadam was alive and well, would ISIS would have set foot in Iraq?
The bottom line is, when will the Middle East take responsibility for their sovereignty?
Makes me wonder, if Sadam was alive and well, would ISIS would have set foot in Iraq?
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COL Ted Mc
SCPO Lee Pradia - Senior Chief; The answer to your question is "In all probability, 'No.'.".
The answer to the question "Did Iraq have 'vast stockpiles of WMD'?" is also "In all probability 'No.'.". (Provided that you don't count ordnance that was no longer usable and which the Iraqi government had completely lost all track of as being "Iraqi WMD".)
The answer to the question "Was Iraq working on developing/producing nuclear weapons?" is "In all probability, 'No.'.".
The answer to the question "Was Iraq working on developing/producing WMD?" is "In all probability, 'No.'.".
The answer to the question "Would the result in Afghanistan have been significantly different if the US government had not re-directed US forces to Iraq?" is "In all probability, 'Not unless the US government had wanted to rule Afghanistan for 50+ years, and even then probably not.'.".
The answer to the question "Did Iraq have 'vast stockpiles of WMD'?" is also "In all probability 'No.'.". (Provided that you don't count ordnance that was no longer usable and which the Iraqi government had completely lost all track of as being "Iraqi WMD".)
The answer to the question "Was Iraq working on developing/producing nuclear weapons?" is "In all probability, 'No.'.".
The answer to the question "Was Iraq working on developing/producing WMD?" is "In all probability, 'No.'.".
The answer to the question "Would the result in Afghanistan have been significantly different if the US government had not re-directed US forces to Iraq?" is "In all probability, 'Not unless the US government had wanted to rule Afghanistan for 50+ years, and even then probably not.'.".
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad Gunny the only change we could do, besides leaving, is to put a lot of BOG. The only people that have the chops to do the fighting and keep at it when it is tough are the Kurds and there aren't enough of them to finish the fight.
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I would say that as long as ISIS has something that looks like a country they are accomplishing their goal. They call themselves the Islamic State...
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad Should I say it again? Cut off the money/oil sales. http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/01/economist-explains
Where Islamic State gets its money
IT WILL not be easy to defeat the brutal jihadists of Islamic State (IS), as the American-led coalition against the group aims to do. IS is one of the best-financed...
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COL Ted Mc
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COL Ted Mc - Thank you for the info regarding the manufacture of hydrogen...I'll skip the financial advice. LOL
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Conventional Warfare I.E. air strikes and such, will not work with a multi-celled, Guerilla style Terror organization. The only way to hurt them would be in the pocket book, and possibly "accurate" intel driven spec ops strikes. ISIS and other Terror organizations are like the Hydra, cut off one head and 3 more are ready to take it's place.
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I believe there is only one approach -- fully re-engage and occupy Iraq, so as to ensure that it is not just a concept of degraded ability via aerial assault -- but does the nation have the willingness? Is the POTUS committed...
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Perhaps another question is would they have been stronger without the bombings?
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
That is a valid question Capt (Join to see) --- I suppose there is really no way to know. Nonetheless, it is discouraging that we don't have something to show for the "billions of dollars" this has cost already.
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I think without the external pressure they would be much stronger. US support hitting targets has degrading capabilities and limited freedom of maneuver. All good things in a kinetic environment. What we aren't countering is the propaganda element. They still attract new fighters to their cause, they are building inside the the areas they already control. We have had this issue since Vietnam, we are great when things go loud but we have difficulty in handling the human terrain.
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PO2 Ron Burling
Well, Gunny, we did make them react to the bombing by abandoning large scale open movements, but that is purely tactical, their newer tactics make it harder to hit them directly while bombing infrastructure impacts the entire population which is not so much to our benefit in the long run.
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The longer we leave this situation to fester the more opportunities the group will have to accomplish something disastrous. A large scale attack on US becomes more likely as time passes with a group this wealthy operating. They may see their success on the ground diminish and turn to other means.
I think they're trying to bait us in with their propaganda.
I think they're trying to bait us in with their propaganda.
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We have to fully engage on this or not at all. I hate to say we need boots on the ground, but, we need to commit 100% or shut the whole operation down.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
You're right TSgt David L. --- let's either do this or not do this. But, whatever we do, let's not keep wasting "billions of dollars" to accomplish nothing!
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COL Ted Mc
TSgt David L. - Sergeant; You aren't going to see "boots on the ground" in any significant numbers until AFTER they have finished counting the Electoral College votes.
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TSgt David L.
COL Ted Mc I'm fine with that, Sir. I'd prefer that we didn't ever send any, but this won't be done unless we decide to engage 100% IMO. You're probably right though.
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