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Anyone see this - a Marine was helping sea turtles get to the ocean after they hatched. He was shot in a struggle. Who hates sea turtles anyway???http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-shot-sea-turtles_55ad028de4b065dfe89eb427?
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That's stupid. It's worth noting though that the vet was shot with his own gun. Don't draw a weapon you don't intend to use.
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SSG Izzy Abbass
Yeah, that was a bit of a bad story for a Marine. All kinds of jokes could follow here but I won't do that in reverence to my bothers and sisters
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SGT Jeremiah B.
SSG Izzy Abbass - Nah, I totally understand his position. He'd hoped it would scare the guy off, but at the end of the day, killing a drunk idiot over sea turtles isn't probably something that would sit well with him. I know I wouldn't want to be that guy either.
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Capt Seid Waddell
SGT Jeremiah B., agreed; a gun makes a terrible threat. Nobody can outrun a bullet and their only choice is to attack immediately. This is what appears to have happened here. When he pulled the gun he should have been prepared to use it quickly.
That said, it is difficult to know which alternative would have been worse - getting shot in the butt or explaining to the police why you shot a drunk.
That said, it is difficult to know which alternative would have been worse - getting shot in the butt or explaining to the police why you shot a drunk.
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Firearms are for killing. If the situation does not require killing, don't draw it.
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Someone that hates sea turtles. That is a new one.
Well, if you draw a weapon you are supposed to draw it to use it. If he had a conceal carry permit in FL (which I suspect he did) he should know that he drew his weapon, likely, unlawfully.
I did not glean from the article that his life or others were in imminent danger from this guy. You don't draw your weapon to scare people or show them you are armed, you draw it to shoot for this very reason. It was wrestled away and used on him. You have to know your limitations, the law and act accordingly. He did not.
Well, if you draw a weapon you are supposed to draw it to use it. If he had a conceal carry permit in FL (which I suspect he did) he should know that he drew his weapon, likely, unlawfully.
I did not glean from the article that his life or others were in imminent danger from this guy. You don't draw your weapon to scare people or show them you are armed, you draw it to shoot for this very reason. It was wrestled away and used on him. You have to know your limitations, the law and act accordingly. He did not.
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Capt Seid Waddell
SrA Daniel Hunter, wisdom accumulates slowly over time - mostly from learning the hard way.
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I just want to live in a secluded area where only Amazon knows where I am.
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I have two places in mind. There are no sea turtles in either location. But Amazon delivers.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
SFC James Sczymanski - Everything tastes better with a generous helping of "enormous fines if caught."
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SGT Jeremiah B.
Alcohol. Also, I'm from an area that has sea turtle nests. It can be REALLY annoying for residents - no outside lights, big sections of the beach blocked off near hatching time and a bunch of other rules I can't even remember.
On the plus side, it doesn't sound like anyone was shot on purpose. The Marine pulled a gun and it went off when they fought over it.
On the plus side, it doesn't sound like anyone was shot on purpose. The Marine pulled a gun and it went off when they fought over it.
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Shot with his own gun... If this Marine did indeed "fear for his life" as I believe Florida is a "Stand Your Ground" state he should have pulled that trigger as soon as the much younger drunk charged him.
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There's a lot to be said for stand off distance. That being said, this another in the litany of examples of the degradation of society as a whole. It's time to circle the wagons.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
1SG (Join to see) - Nah, it's just another example of why you don't draw a weapon you don't intend to use. Being drunk and belligerent is a time honored tradition!
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SGT Jeremiah B. proper stand off gives room for 2 to the chest & 1 to the head :) Seriously though, the 21 ft rule applies. If you're not practiced at drawing from a concealed holster and shooting accurately from the hip at close range engagements, you should leave the weapon secured in the holster and either go hands on or withdraw.
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