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State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf has stated that the Middle East needs more job opportunities to remove the threat of groups such as ISIS and that killing them will not beat them.
I both agree and disagree with this statement, where if better opportunities existed within the Middle East there would be less individuals fighting with the terrorists, but at the same time, we must remove ISIS to allow those jobs to even been created.
What do you all think?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/marie-harf-state-department-on-islamic-state-cant-/
I both agree and disagree with this statement, where if better opportunities existed within the Middle East there would be less individuals fighting with the terrorists, but at the same time, we must remove ISIS to allow those jobs to even been created.
What do you all think?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/marie-harf-state-department-on-islamic-state-cant-/
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I am contractually obligated to do nothing more than shake my head in stupefied disbelief.
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Sgt Mark Ramos
Great line. I feel patriotically obligated to point out as much of the nonsense as possible without completely causing my friends to label me a hater and thus ignore the message.
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SPC Charles Griffith
Airman Butron fear not we Veterans have your back and we WILL hold feet to fire as needed when possible. Carry on Airman stay safe and Thank You for your service.
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As I remain unemployed. Let's give Uncle Mark a job fighting ISIS.
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SFC (Join to see)
I am sure there may be some ROTC contracting jobs out there! However I do wish you luck on getting a ISIS hunting permit. I think they should create a lotto for it soon.
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SrA (Join to see)
Hey SFC Ill come gun for you XD And I am a medic so ill fill two roles we only need one gun truck
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SFC Mark Merino
I was a grunt/scout/aviation type. We get us some arty, sappers, naval guns and fast movers and we can get the band playing!
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I'd really like to see that interview. "I see here on your resume it says you're a homicidal maniac. Could you tell me a little bit more about that and how those jobs skills will translate into the position in which you applied for?"
I think someone over at the State Department fell into the pixie dust.
I think someone over at the State Department fell into the pixie dust.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
I bet ISIS guys would be good at firing people. All you got to do is tell them, "Hey we need to give this guy the ax" . Don't turn around or ask any questions after.
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Maybe we should give them:
Free health care
Welfare
Food Stamps
Citizenship
Free Community College
Free Cell Phones
Unemployment checks
Maybe then they will like us.
On a less satirical note, the above policies have been very effective at crippling any ambition towards attaining success in people who have been the recipients. I might just be onto something here...
Why work so hard being a jihadi when you can hang out and have your needs catered to by the government? It is genius!
Free health care
Welfare
Food Stamps
Citizenship
Free Community College
Free Cell Phones
Unemployment checks
Maybe then they will like us.
On a less satirical note, the above policies have been very effective at crippling any ambition towards attaining success in people who have been the recipients. I might just be onto something here...
Why work so hard being a jihadi when you can hang out and have your needs catered to by the government? It is genius!
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MSgt Fred Spanier
True, I feel the same way! Â It was hard getting the right help I needed after I retired. They get priority over us guys who served our country.
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SSG Harold Stephens
None of that mattered to the Boston Marathon Bomber who was given all of the above by the Massachusetts State Government.
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We tried that tactic in Iraq and Afghanistan by giving them jobs building roads. They would come back to the job site at night and steal the "road" tar and asphalt because it burned really well.
We need to just tar and asphalt the entire area.
We need to just tar and asphalt the entire area.
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SSG (Join to see)
I had seen this first hand in OIF 1 when the locals were contracted to build a local police station in Baghdad. Yes, it was a step up from the previous building although the workmenship was still shoddy.
Unfortunately, that police station along with many others were the target of VBIDEDs.
Unfortunately, that police station along with many others were the target of VBIDEDs.
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COL (Join to see)
When I was there they would sneak into the buildings at night and sabotage whatever we were paying them to do in the daylight so we would pay them to fix it the next day...unbelievable
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I agree that killing them ALONE will not win this war......but it sure will go a long way to achieving the endstate of peace in the region. You cannot engage in soft-power activities like rebuilding the infrastructure and economy, education and political coalition building (which is the long term fix in the region) until the immediate threat is destroyed to the point that the people you are trying to leverage are wiling to participate. For potential recruits outside of the region, you need to leverage the local muslim communities to ID and root out extremist instigators. By and large while we may see outrage from the muslim commuties around the world at these barbarous acts by ISIS, we don't see them, by and large, fingering folks who are funneling foreign fighters into the region or pointing out potential domestic terrorists.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
The only thing most people from these regions respect is power and authority. If you act weak or not fully in control, they have no respect for you. And unfortunately many of our western ways look weak.
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LTC Paul Labrador
Agreed SGM Mikel Dawson, which is why I truly believe we lost a lot of street cred early on in Iraq when we tried to run the reconstruction half-assed. We failed to stop the looting. We failed to restore power and water services. We failed to provide security. We failed because WE didn't want to do it.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
LTC Paul Labrador, preaching to the choir! I was there from the start as well. I bet you and i could set down and drink a whole keg on this matter. This was the same problem the UN had in Bosnia. When the Danish tank platoon CDR took it upon himself to fire on the Serbs immediately and not ask for permission to fire, only after that did they leave the Nordic BDE along. And then the U.N. wanted to charge the Danish CDR, so Denmark got him out of theater.
When we brushed the then Iraqi officer corps to the side we set ourselves up for failure. Bremer and boys should be ashamed of themselves for what they did.
When we brushed the then Iraqi officer corps to the side we set ourselves up for failure. Bremer and boys should be ashamed of themselves for what they did.
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The White House has gotten away with such ridiculous lies for so long that is seems like they are now pushing the envelope even further. Back on 10 Feb 2015, White House press secretary Josh Earnest defended the President's characterization of the shooting at a kosher deli in Paris as "random". He said it was random because the shooters didn't know the victims by name. These guys belong in a bad comedy, not running the country.
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I hear they are already working for the State Department.
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