Posted on Jan 25, 2015
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I wear a ring on the pointer finger of my left hand. It's sterling silver and isn't even as big as a class ring. However, a SSG from my unit is constantly telling me to take it off because it is not a wedding ring. I tell him AR 670-1 states in section Jewlery that a soldier my wear a total of 2 rings; 1 on each hand, and a wedding band set is considered 1. It also states that rings must be conservative in taste and not extreme. Nowhere in the Regs does it say a soldier can only wear wedding rings. My ring meets all requirements but he still yells everytime he sees it. How can I educate him more or resolve the situation without taking off my ring and without getting chewed out?
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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SSG(P) (Join to see) , can we get a photo of the ring in question? Why do you wear it on the index finger vs the ring finger?
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
TSgt Joshua Copeland
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SSG(P) (Join to see), just to be clear, I have nothing against wearing a ring on the index finger. Big Blue allows for 3 conservative rings (wedding sets count as one of worn together). I wear a plain wedding band on each ring finger and a plain band with an relief of a claddagh and Celtic knot work on my left index.
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SGT 94 E Radio Comsec Repairer
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SSG(P) (Join to see), Wow man, I was totally on your side until I saw the ring. If that's what you consider "conservative", I'd hate to see what you consider flashy. You should stop wearing the ring and apologize to that SSG.
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
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I just saw this after commenting, the photo confirms what I though: You have a COMPLETELY different conception of what "conservative" is and when a "opinion" about something is needed, the higher rank wins...take it off and quit wasting your and the NCOs time. No meaning to insult you.
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PO3 Machinist's Mate
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After seeing the ring, I would say to wear it off-duty and out of uniform if it's really important to you, but I would not wear it in uniform...
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SSG Brian G.
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3–4. Jewelry
Note. This paragraph is punitive with regard to Soldiers. Violation by Soldiers may result in adverse administrative action and/or charges under the provisions of the UCMJ
a. Soldiers may wear a wristwatch, a wrist religious or identification bracelet, and a total of two rings (a wedding set is considered one ring) with Army uniforms, unless prohibited by the commander for safety or health reasons.

The above is excerpted from AR 670-1 May 2017.

Check with your local unit/command to see if there is a prohibition due to safety or health reasons. If not then the NCO is ate up. The AR states you may wear up to two rings, it does not state one must be per hand. You could wear both on one hand. Just clarifying for you.

After verifying the above, ask the SSG to show you the regulation where it states what he claims. You are asking to educate yourself. You will want to have a copy of the pertinent AR on hand to show him in case he fails to have it.

If the problem persists get with your immediate chain of command and work it from there.
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CSM Richard StCyr
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Some training events and MOS tasks required that rings be temporarily removed for safety sake, which over rides 670-1 . That was applied for the duration of the task, then it was back to the standard in the 670-1.
Personally I always wore two rings, one on each hand as permitted by 670-1 and never had any questions. However Never gave the safety NCOs any guff when the CRM worksheet for a task required slick fingers either.
Some things we don't see in the conversation
-Are you working with mechanical equipment where a ring may be caught and draw your hand into it
-Are you working with exposed energized things where a ring could cause arcing from the equipment or device to you
-Are you working with an explosive device where the ring could discharge static or pinch the detonator
Those are all instances where safety would over ride the uniform reg.

Baring that talk to the PSG or 1SG. also there can often be differing ideas on what "conservative in nature is" without seeing the ring there's no way to tell if that's the sticking point. In that case see the 1SG.
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CSM Richard StCyr
CSM Richard StCyr
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Also, a coworker just reminded me about the construction worker who tore his finger off year before last here on post, the guy was checking a load on one of the 20 ton dump trucks and jumped off the side of the truck catching his ring on a tarp tie down and skinning it and non surgically removing everything from the center to the tip. Another reason to be conscious of your rings and wearing gloves when appropriate.
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SSG Matthew Koehler
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My father once gave me some sound advice before I joined the military. "Keep your mouth shut and do what you're told." I had a long 23 year career and topped off at E-6. I can understand both sides of the coin in this case. I could argue both sides as well. I can only say if you like the ring that much or its special to you, protect it. Dont get it scratched, damaged, or bloody in the line of duty. You wont get it replaced...
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David Pitt
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I stoped wearing my wedding ring when during a inspection I was getting down fuel cans when they fell smashing my hand and ring with it, it could of riped the flesh from my finger had not my battle buddy not been there to push them back In time
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PO1 Donald Hammond
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Let me tell you from experience .... take the ring off when you are on the job. Rings can get caught in things and take your finger off with it.

I was an electrician so of course never wore my wedding ring. But one time we were pulling in and I put it on since I was going to be seeing her soon. Our CO decided to do a drill to get an officer his submarine quals. Part of it was doing an emergency blow. So we had a "casualty" to the submarine. All us good engineering types ran aft. Emergency blow. STEEP up angle. I grabbed for the bulkhead to stop my race and caught my ring on a screw. It damn near tore my finger off. Spun me around and I slammed into the deck really hard.

So to all, take the bling off when on the job.

Oh, and earrings. Egad. That must hurt when those get ripped out. Seen that happen in NON-combat situations. Or is working with mobs of little kids considered a combat situation?
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SSG Supply Sergeant (S4)
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Print off the regulation and show it to him. Be professional about it of course. If he still sticks to his guns ask him to show you were it says this. This can be a learning experience for the both of you. If he is wrong and still pushes the issue take it up the chain. We can not go around making up our own rules just because we feel it is right. Hope this helps.
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SFC Cheri Kelley Miller
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Keep referring to the Army regs and VERY TACFULLY explain to him/her that unless it states very specifically the placement of where the ring shall be and the type of ring you are NOT in violation of any regulation if they continue to give you any problems refer to their first line and keep going further until it is resolved. Hopefully it doesn't go that far but if it does that is a valid IG complaint for harassment.
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SSgt Jim Sommers
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The SSG in question needs to get a life. He really needs bigger and better things to concern himself. ISIS may be at our doorsteps and he's worrying about your fingers. Sad, very sad. My condolences to you and your cohorts. I could see checking to see if your nails were "military length," e.i., a tad longer then looking bitten.
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Maj Kim Patterson
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Methinks this point has very little to do with the actual ring or the wording of the reg. I'm late to this discussion and have not seen said ring. Have you put in your papers for discharge yet? Because if you intend to continue with military service in a time of cutbacks, there are more important things to worry about. If we can't trust you to take care of your body parts (safety issue already covered,) how can we trust you with the bigger things? You have been in long enough to understand that rank has privaledges and responsibilities. You do not have to like the SSGT but you do have to respect and obey the rank. As a reference, check the wording of your Oath of Enlistment.
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SSG Harper Peterson
SSG Harper Peterson
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Amen Major!
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