Posted on Aug 20, 2015
Were I afforded the privilege to retire after 20 years of active service, could I serve in the Reserves?
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I served for 6 years in the Reserves prior to being full time AD. If I am afforded the privilege of a 20 year retirement, would I be allowed to continue to serve as an Army Reserve officer? From my time in the Reserves I know of SMs who drilled for points but not pay. Is it possible to draw a pension from full time active service and still volunteer for drill in the Army Reserve? If so, how? If not why not? To the later question, why would the Reserves not value my experience and want me as a contributor especially if I were willing to do it for free?
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Sir, When I am released from the Army, I intend to return to my crops and be ready for the next harvest.
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This is a really interesting question, and I am very interested in the answer. I BELIEVE that you would not be able to both 1) draw retired pay and 2) serve in any Active Reserve status (which would include drilling either for pay or for points).
I don't like that, and think that there SHOULD be a way to drill just for "God and Country" (neither pay nor "points.") hopefully a smart admin person will post and tell us that there is.
I don't like that, and think that there SHOULD be a way to drill just for "God and Country" (neither pay nor "points.") hopefully a smart admin person will post and tell us that there is.
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You cannot draw your retirement pay while serving the reserves as far as I know.
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MSgt John McGowan
1LT: Many years ago when i first retired I tried to get in the Air Guard or reserves and was told to forget it. About thaat time I was missing my military time.
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I work with people who are in the reserves after retiring from active duty. Unsure about points vs pay though. I will ask them and am also curious to see others' responses here.
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CH (MAJ) (Join to see)
Thank you! My two favorite parts of my day are when I put my uniform on and when I take it off. I'd love to be able to do that, with less frequency, in retirement. Most importantly, I'd love to do it, if it would be of genuine help.
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LCDR (Join to see)
CH (MAJ) (Join to see) I 100% agree. I am interested as well because I also want to "stay in uniform" when I "take off the uniform" as it were.
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Generally you would transfer from AD to the reserves ILO retiring outright if you want to still be paid for drills. This does have ramifications on collecting your AD pension. From my understanding there are 3 levels of retirement 1) outright retirement where you fully separate from everything - no COLA increases, 2) retirement where you are subject to IRR recall - includes COLA and increases and 3) retirement which includes COLA, allows you to drill for points, be subject to recall and increases your retirement - once you are eligible to collect - based on the additional points earned. It all depends on what you selected upon retirement from AD.
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The interesting point is guard and reserve do not collect.retirement till about 60 years of age depending on if they served any active duty time it will adjust accordingly.
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I believe you can serve as in the Civil Air Patrol after retirement. I researched it 10 years back for a friend, but he never followed up.
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I think retirees from all branches and components should be allowed to volunteer in a reserve unit such as instruction, mentoring, giving physicals, helping prepare a briefing, helping unit prepare for an inspection or an exercise. It gives them an opportunity to continue to use their skills. I know a retired Navy SeaBee Master Chief who continues to work with his unit as a retiree; he even gets non-pay, non point orders. If it can be done in the Army, I never heard about it. Otherwise the closest thing Ive seen is in states that have an active state defense force (They dont even have to be former military to join); they do some of those things with the National Guard units.
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Basically Sir, no. You cannot be paid twice for service. Meaning, the Army can not pay you a retirement and a pay check at the same time.
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When I was in the Air Force reserves. And this was in the 70's. I was in the 728 mad and I flew with an engineer on a C141 who had previously retired from the Air Force.
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