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Sgt Matt Medhat Joining the military first provides the following potential advantages:
1. A break from school
2. Time to mature and gain needed discipline
3. A better idea on what major to choose, along with a tight focus on obtaining that degree
4. The G.I. Bill
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SGT Dave Tracy
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Good list. I would only add "A wider perspective" to it.
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Sgt Matt Medhat
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Great points. Maturity is underrated. I am not sure college would have worked for me at 19 and 20.
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Sgt Matt Medhat
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We should do a whole topic on the advantage of perspective!
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SFC Barbara Layman
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Military after high school is well advised. Particularly for 'small-town' young folks who have had limited exposure to attitudes and ideals different from those of their 'isolated' community.
Granted, there is 'exposure' via television however watching is one thing, true life experience is another. One's horizons and perspectives change considerably when willing to expose themselves to the greater world.
I can tell you from personal observation there are ARNG states that send 'platoons' of HS graduates to BT & AIT essentially restricting their experience and exposure to what they know and take with them. Upon return, they are the same close-minded, inexperienced individuals they were when they left - the 'isolated' State NG platoons are not particularly advantages for their members or the organization as a whole.
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I think it's better to get a few years of experience in the private sector before entering military service. It gives you a real sense of the value that the military offers. The majority of kids who join the military come straight out of their parents houses, trading one parent for another. They don't realize they are starting a career. In my experience, people with prior service or prior civilian experience treat military service more as a profession with solid benefits and high school kids approach it as an adventure they are quickly disillusioned with.

However joining straight out of high school puts you way above your peers once you are a civilian. I left the Army at 21 and within less than a year I was assistant manager at a restaurant, a year later I was the shift lead at another restaurant. In the four years I spent after the military, I was constantly moved into leadership positions shortly after starting work at a new job because of the habits I picked up in the Army. Be on time. Do the job completely the first time. Fix problems before someone tells you to. Always say yes to a challenge.

Having been the kid that joins at 18 I realize kids really aren't capable of making life decisions at 18. Working with other prior service, I see that they approach the military as a career and a way to feed their families for the long term.
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While in TRADOC at age 39 I enjoyed just coasting along being fed, being clothed, being housed AND BEING PAID!!!!! surrounded by whiny brats crying over having to get up early, or make their bed again while being paid for it without the expectation of anything other than passing training milestones.

HELL!!!!!! In BOLC we got put in our places as 2LT by having to pick weeds out of the sidewalk. I was collecting top tier 2LT pay (Prior Service), Per Diem, and CALIFORNIA BAH. I was making nearly $9K a month while there. I was toying with the idea of being recycled at $9K a month.
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CPT (Join to see) that was exactly how I felt as a prior service reclass going through AIT at 25. WA state BAH rate was covering my mortgage and while I wasn't making as much as a 2LT I was still collecting E4 at 4 years pay for doing nothing more challenging than sitting at a desk for a few hours a day in class. Plus, free gym and free food! It was way easier than any civilian job I held in the previous four years
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SFC (Join to see) - The best job I ever had in life was getting 2 years on orders, and then a deployment right after that as an Intel Analyst E4/E5. Nothing compares. I was 40yo with a skill level 1 expectation. 35F work is much like just doing college research papers and present them in a format of the intel community. I could work so fast, I could type so fast, I knew PowerPoint inside and out from Corporate days.

I will never have a better job than that.
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Sgt Matt Medhat
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This is great, I had not thought of it this way. Just as maturity and experience help when returning to the civilian world, it also helps when joining the military. Some of the better young leaders had at least 1 or 2 years of experience in work/college before joining.
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That completely depends on the individual and what their goals are in my opinion. We all get the same benefits no matter when we enlist. The only thing that makes a difference is the age you’ll be when you ETS or retire. High school students are looking at retiring at 38-40 rather than retiring at 50. Everyone has different reasons as to why they joined when they did. But the one measurable benefit that I can think of is time. How old do you want to be when you get out.
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Sgt Matt Medhat
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There is no one way to do it. So many options and different avenues.
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What advantage is there to joining the military after highschool instead of going to college immediately after graduating?
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Sgt (Join to see) hit it dead on. Plus the military will provide TA to pay for your classes while you’re in. Get your Gen Ed classes out of the way first.
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Sgt Matt Medhat
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This is key, taking advantage of knocking out those gen eds save time, money, and gets you warmed up for the rest of your education.
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I did college straight out of high school. Had a year of the most fun I've ever had at the time, wasted a lot of money, made a lot of friends, got out of Connecticut....and finished year one with a very bad GPA due to zero discipline.
I joined the Army and now have 2 degrees with high GPAs for both in a field I know I'm good at and interests me (and is actually useful - sorry philosophy or early Armenian literature majors...), was able to give my GI Bill to my kids, and now get to stack some professional certs before I get out in a few years.

So it depends on the person. Some people can do it right after high school, others not so much.
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Sgt Matt Medhat
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So true, I would have been you. Average C student in high school not taking education seriously, I knew I wasn't ready for higher education. After the military, graduated with honors because I cared.
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While I fully intended to eventually go to college, I joined right out of high school to:
-Gain a marketable skill
-Mature
-Save money for college
-Travel
-Get a better idea of what I wanted to study in college
-Take a break from school

I have zero regrets for that decision.
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Sgt Matt Medhat
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Great list!
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Military: Training; Learning to Respect Yourself & Others, Love for America & The Constitution, Learning experiences from beyond your present age group. Wisdom.
College: Indoctrination; Selfishness, Hatred for all that is Wholesome, Hatred for America & The Constitution, Stupification.
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SSG Paul Headlee
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Here's one. If there is even a remote chance the person may wish to retire, get in there ASAP. If that person wants to commission, there are ways subsequent to enlistment. Either way, the sooner you start, the sooner you finish. Then you have four years or so head start on your second career.
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SSG Paul Headlee - yea, it worked out well enough. I never made WRONG decisions, I always made SAFE decisions. I didn't follow my heart. So while I did eventually join, I only did so after I had built up a large enough retirement nest egg in my civilian career.
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SSG Paul Headlee
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CPT (Join to see) My first two wives saved me from becoming affluent. I've got a keeper for sure now though.
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SSG Paul Headlee - #3 wasn't in it for the money, that's for sure.
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SSG Paul Headlee
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CPT (Join to see) She should have been the one and only but I'm only ever just half of the equation.
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Not sure if it is an advantage or a disadvantage. I will say that from the start I saw a maturity difference in those who had experienced different things including college. This goes back to basic training. At sone point it tapers off and the lines become blurred as service progresses, but I would agree that life experience after school has its advantages upon service.
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I went to college twice. Once right after high school, where I goofed off for two years and dropped out. I found the motivation and the discipline during my military service for college. My experience in the USAF was critical in getting me through two degrees.
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