Posted on Feb 2, 2020
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What to do when a SL and TL cant seem to have cohesion, have huge different views on things, and can't see eye to eye? Ik some solutions but would like some extra guidance on the matter. Also on what to do when your SL cannot uphold the same standard as you do as a team leader?
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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I assume you are the TL in question, and the SL is your SL. In that case, lawful orders are lawful orders. That doesn't mean you can't go above and beyond with your team. And if it becomes an insurmoutable obstacle, try sitting down with SL behind closed doors and hashing out differences, as well as communicating expectations. It is perfectly OK for you to have and communicate expectations of your leaders... As long as you do so tactfully and respectfully. The leader has no requirement to MEET those expectations, but sometimes letting your senior know you expect more from them lights the proverbial fire under the 4th point.
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MSG Danny Mathers
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Just drive on and never lower your standards to anyone. I went through the same experience several lifetimes ago. I out soldiered my SL and got promoted. He was moved to another company within the battalion with a low efficient report. He was a generation older than me and retired as a SSG. I became promotable SSG (P) before he left for CONUS
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1SG Rick Seekman
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definitely consult the PSG if you're not able to work this out..
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SGM Jeff Bullard
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No matter the situation the SL wins due to rank and general military authority. When trying to get a point across to your SL you must use tact. Always be professional and never talk negatively about your SL especially to your Soldiers.
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1SG Rick Seekman
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SL wins!
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1SG Roy Evans
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First of all you have stated that you are a team leader so you need to lead a team under the squad leader directive and stay at your level on the command you may make thing real difficult by making it seem your leader is not compentet
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What I would do is have a serious heart to heart with the young Squad Leader. Inform him or her that their behavior, flippant attitude and especially the fratenerazation with other members of the Platoon or Company will not be tolerated. Let this be a "come to Jesus" warning and inform them that if the behavior continues, they will be reading about it in a counseling recommending them for an Article 15.
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SSG(P) Squad Leader
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as annoying as it may be, if the orders are lawful "Roger Sarn't" is really your only option. If he's failing as a SL, do your best to protect your fire team and work within the orders of SL.
If platoon and company leadership is on point, a shitty Squad leader wont last long.
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