Posted on Feb 16, 2016
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should the thin blue line be more important than the black lives matter movement or black panthers resurrection?
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Simply put...all lives matter. What I don't like it the media and groups getting on TV and spreading lies to promote their own agenda. There are some who want their to be a racial divide for profit.
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SSG Robert Perrotto ignore the idiot...you just cannot fix stupid
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PFC (Join to see) - Triggering her is amusing
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CPL Joy Downs Hart - BTW - I am not stalking you, your idiocy just shows up in topics I am interested in.
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SSG Robert Perrotto lol...enjoy it. I got tired of her stupid racist comments towards me. She thinks she is better than everyone else...well enjoy your lonely racist life because I do not have time for people like her.
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It is not only racial, it is as racist as the Klan.
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sir I totally agree with you!
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My thoughts, There is a real issue with police that needs to be addressed, so, I agree with reforms. What I think about BLM is it has been hijacked by those who sole intent is to create strife and unrest in order to destabilize the United States.
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What are everyone's thoughts on the Black Lives Matter issues that are happening? Is it racial or not?
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#AllLivesMatter is not and was not a call for unity. It is something that was designed and used as a way to undervalue, underestimate and marginalize the black experiences, or African-American experiences, regarding injustices at the hands of corrupt and poorly trained cops, as well as a justice systems that does the same thing. If you say all lives matter and/or blue lives matter, but you don't understand or want to say black lives matter, then perhaps you have an issue with #BlackLivesMatter, but because it's about black people...
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I do have an issue with what that movement has become.....violence towards anyone that does not support their cause. it may have started out as a good thing to bring to light the injustice of the bad cops but that group has caused more damage than good now.

so to me, ALL LIVES MATTER, not just one race or one group. we are of one race and it is the HUMAN RACE and until people get over themselves and start seeing that then there will always be an us verses them type mentality, so thank you for thinking of me as a bigot or racist.
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I don't recall calling YOU or anyone else on this particular thread, a bigot and/or racist. My response was directed toward the question that was asked. It goes without saying, that there are bad seeds in almost every group. The Army is a prime example of that. It would be irresponsible to lump all black lives matter activists and supporters, into the same group as those who are causing damage, in the name of black lives matter. Even though you might not see it personally, there are gang members, skinhead members, klan members, etc., etc., in the military today. You're smart enough to find out what different organizations are about. http://blacklivesmatter.com/ I stand by what I said before, "#AllLivesMatter is not and was not a call for unity. It is something that was designed and used as a way to undervalue, underestimate and marginalize the black experiences, or African-American experiences, regarding injustices at the hands of corrupt and poorly trained cops, as well as a justice systems that does the same thing." That's not directed toward anyone specifically, but anyone in general who asks what it's about and particularly toward those who want to call it a racist hate group...
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People should be able to protest and speak their minds. This stops when their actions become a danger to others. On an individual basis, the violence needs to be addressed.
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I agree, when the rioting and looting and all that goes with that type of behavior, they lose all respect of what they are trying to achieve.
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Groups certainly have a right to protest what they feel is unjust treatment. AT issue for BLM is when is it correct for police to use deadly force, and why does it seem (to them) that it tends to target African-Americans? Certainly, those are valid concerns and issues. What is bothersome to me is that the facts of individual cases do not seem to matter to BLM; they'd rather just raise hell and shout about "epidemics" and "runaway racism" among police. Again, angry people do not tend to make rational arguments, but rather emotional ones.
This is not unusual among protest movements. Occupy Wall Street and Code Pink come immediately to mind.
What irritates me about BLM is their tactics. To get attention, they block the freeway, turn up at malls two days before Christmas, disrupt state fairs, and bully if not outright attack people who do not agree with them. In more extreme cases, looting and vandalism has broken out as well. This does not further their cause, and only makes them look bad. If you have a grudge, go after those who gored your ox, not innocent passers-by going about their business.
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Well said.
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TSgt Frank Shirley - It sounds to me that while I understand their concerns and support their rights to protest, that their tactics and methods of executing said protests on numerous occasions including right here in my hometown of Minneapolis neither further their cause nor engender people to be thoughtful and consider the issues at hand. They simply disrupt at places where they can get attention from the media.
The beauty of the American right to protest in the 1st Amendment is that while it doesn't mean you get your way, you do get to have your voice heard.
What I am saying is that they are losing their point by being crummy messengers.
Jesus said to turn the other cheek. Top Healy says orient towards your enemy, don't go about making new ones.
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I knew this thread was bound to go South.
Some folks can't look past their own anger to figure out how to solve the problem.
I hope we can do better than this, once cooler heads do something constructive.
As for Kaepernick, my guess is that he will be out of a job soon. He wasn't that good of a quarterback, and now he's made himself a pariah.
I'm not even mad about the kneeling during the national anthem. The socks tell the real tale of where his head is at.
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PFC (Join to see) - It's far too easy to play the "Race Card." At some point, we'll become desensitized to the issue(s). To date, no particular race has yet to monopolize stupidity. Racism is merely a symptom. Within the absence of both respect and self-respect lies the cause.

Just to stir the pot, I attached this link. A group of Black Lives Matter beat the daylights out of a vet. (Oddly, I thought someone else would have beaten me to the punch to post this.)

http://usmclife.com/2016/02/marine-war-hero-famous-iraq-photo-beaten-robbed-gang-black-lives-matter-teens/
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CPL Joy Downs Hart do you think that I don't care about black veterans? That I wouldn't be angry if this happened to one of them. Your ignorance is showing since you seem to "know" me and how a feel.

This was posted 4years ago.
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Wow. That's a lot of anger there Joy. I see it does not bother you that anyone was killed unless they have a certain pigment to their skin. How shallow can you get? So far, across this site called RP, I've never seen you once condemn a black guy killing any one. And there have been plenty of posts about that subject. Your behavior is but one example why BLM's name is so tarnished.
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CPL Joy Downs Hart again your ignorance shows
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SSgt (Join to see) its because of ignorant people like her is why I don't get on here anymore
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Good people are being misled. New Black Panthers have been labeled a Hate Group by the liberal group Southern Poverty Law Center. They have vowed to attend the Republican Convention and will be armed. How can they get a pass on hate speech for saying "kill all whites" but white groups don't? (I'm not saying that any should, it's just baffling to me) I believe that officers should be held accountable to justify deadly force. Officer Involved shootings should be investigated by an independent agency. However, groups that loot burn and wound/injure others have nothing but anarchy on their mind. It has nothing to do with seeking justice for a shooting.
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I agree with you. Now there are a lot more cop killings or attempts now because people have the mentality of it us vs them.

Its not that way, you follow the letter of the law that are placed before everyone there is no reason whatsoever to fear the police or any type of law enforcement.

We all bleed red no matter what our skin color is. We are all of one race......its called the HUMAN RACE. people need to get over these labels. Just sick of it
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Lives matter. If one puts a group up as more important than any other group then I see a problem.

Again it is simple LIVES matter.
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very well put Capt. Don Porter. we would hope more would feel this way. unfortunately not everyone has that opened mindedness like you and a lot of others do. we can only hope that racial tensions between all races in our nation will some time never exist.
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So, you point is? You can't just kill anyone because of the color of their skin. Again all lives matter.
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Black Lives Matter, Blue lives matter, white lives matter. All can be viewed as saying only those lives matter. Now, just who, and where were live ended because of the color of their skin, and who did the elimination?

You are probably too young or would simply deny that white people were pulled out of their cars and killed just because they were white.

Again, it is simple and people want to make it difficult - Lives Matter.
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In my opinion, BLM started as a organized way to protest and have their voiced heard about police violence. Fast forward a month or two, the peacful protests are hijacked by people that want to harm amd cause damage. It is very hard to fully point a finger at any specific group, because you always will have those few that will or try to ruin things for the whole group.
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