What are y'alls opinions on escalation of force for Police Departments?

I would have to put my self in the officers position. Blake violated a trespass order for the house he was at, the police struggled with him, used two tasers that did not stop him, then he simply walks away from the struggle, and stated he was going to his car for a weapon/gun. Looking around there were to many people around to be firing with out being completely sure of your shot. You also have the bystanders and the fact that the police are being watched very close for shooting folks with out a weapon. They let him get to the car he opened the door and reached in now you have to take him at his word that he has a weapon. If i had been in the same position and i am in no way saying i am any kind of an expert, I would have only changed one thing i would have reached down and shot him in the leg twice and stepped back. Two Thigh wounds are going to bleed a lot i don't think he is going any where very fast. JMTC

What could have been done differently? Jacob Blake could have chosen not to serially abuse and stalk this woman over the course of several years, according to the criminal complaint, committing various other previous crimes against her (police filed charges against him for felony sexual assault, trespassing and domestic abuse), driving her to obtain a protective order against him, which he violated when he entered her home, took her car keys, and sexually assaulted her in her bed while one of her children lay right next to her (which was why police were called in the first place). He could have chosen not to resist arrest when police attempted to take him into custody not only on the basis of violation of the protective order against him (and the appalling assault which he had just committed in the process), but the open warrant for his arrest stemming from those numerous prior assaults. He could have chosen not to reach for a weapon when police were trying to restrain him using less aggressive methods.

Lots of things could have been done differently.

It is a terrible thing that the situation ended the way it did, but the power to effect a different outcome was entirely in Mr. Blake’s hands. It is even more tragic that his children had to witness the event, but he put them in that situation, not the police.

One notes that given the facts that have come to light, the media have quietly discontinued virtually all discussion on the case. But if history is any predictor, I suspect that after a few years have gone by and most people have forgotten the relevant details of the event, the media will go right back to resurrecting the fable version of the story in which Jacob Blake is yet another innocent victim of racist police violence á la Michael “Hands-Up-Don’t-Shoot” Brown (the 6’2”, 325-lb “teenager” who committed a strong-arm robbery of a convenience store and savagely attacked the responding officer).

The point here is not that that there are not people in America who are innocent victims of police brutality. The point is that Mr. Blake is not one of those people. Everything that happened to him was a direct consequence of his own behavior.

I find it somewhat noteworthy that the cries of “Black Lives Matter” raised in support of Mr. Blake are deafening in their silence with regard to his victim. Does her black life not matter? Does she not rate a visit from Kamala Harris? She was repeatedly raped and assaulted by Mr. Blake (allegedly). Where is the outrage for her? For the countless other victims of the Jacob Blakes of the world, who get pushed aside by self-serving, virtue-signaling coastline progressives?

Yes, lots of things could have been done differently — by Jacob Blake.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/this-is-why-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest/amp/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/for-every-jacob-blake-there-are-millions-of-jacob-blakes-victims

Anyone who has done an exercise in force on force training knows how quickly someone can reach for a firearm on the car seat or draw one from their waistband, spin around and fire.

After repeated commands to comply, and having no effect using LTL force, the choices are either move to lethal force or take a chance on being shot by the perpetrator.

Hard to say not knowing all of the circumstances, but I would have exhausted all other means of controlling him until my life or others around me were threatened. Shooting him would be my last resort, but once would have been more than enough. However, in my opinion, not knowing the facts, I believe this was probably the first such encounter in a situation like that for the Officer and when threatened, under the circumstances, his fear took over and his response was spontaneous.

Have you ever been a cop? Have you been attacked by someone on drugs. After that happens then write your story.

The perp failed multiple commands to drop the knife.

Anyone who has any LEO or EMS experience knows knives are more lethal, statistically, than fire arms.

What happened in the vehicle will be up for a jury to decide.

Personally, I trust the judgment of my fellow Reserve Component friends who work in Minneapolis PD and MN State Patrol in dealing with armed suspects.

First off, Breonna Taylor had NOT been an EMT since 2016. The media keeps pushing that she WAS currently an EMT. NOT TRUE. Police have overwhelming evidence she was involved with her ex-boyfriend's drug activities - including money, being a holding spot, and more. It takes an insane amount of evidence to get a no-knock warrant. So, like it or not, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. She was a criminal, not a saint as the media are pointing her out to be. When your values are in the toilet, so is your life. George Floyd would have died in his car if the police hadn't shown up. He overdosed on Meth and Fentanyl. He was entering the non-reversible state of "excited delirium" just as the cops showed up. Police body cam shows police tried to help him - letting him lie on the ground as he asked on video because the car made him claustrophobic. Also, a request made/heard on the bodycam. When suspects are on drugs they have an insane amount of strength, can't be predicted whether they'll explode in rage and kill - many keep coming even when shot half a dozen times. The BOTTOM LINE is Jacob Blake, George Floyd, and Breonna Taylor were CRIMINALS acting in a CRIMINAL manner and received the ultimate punishment - DEATH because they were stupid people acting stupidly. You don't get killed by police if you're not doing drugs, doing crimes, being an ass. Systemic racism?! Police kill TWICE the number of white men as black men in any given year. Systemic? NO. You're drinking the BLM Kool-aid. Write a paper worth reading how about it? When faced with a person resisting arrest and reaching for a weapon you respond in a way that saves your life. This dirt-bag raped a woman in front of her child, stole her wallet and car and was running away - had prior criminal convictions. HE IS A CRIMINAL. Criminals get stopped - one way or another. What could have been done differently is the courts could have sentenced him to a longer term. He's a CRIMINAL. What part of that doesn't compute with you?1

A great deal of what people believe is true about firearms and self defense comes from TV and movies. Most of which are not based in law or reality. What someone has a heartbeat or two of time to make a life and death decision will be examined over many days of deliberation and the jury is told to use what a reasonable person would do under those circumstances. The individual was tased twice with little affect. Ordered multiple times at gun point to stop his actions. Under the laws of every state I have researched, deadly force was justifiable. Waiting until the person turns around would likely be the officers last mistake. Politics and mass psychosis have taken over the national discourse fueled by a compliant media and politicians hoping to further their political agenda. 40 years ago the actions may have been for the officers to tackle the suspect and wrestle him to the ground with a few smacks. Bloody and bruised but alive. In today's world that is considered police brutality. So, political correctness has led to deadly force use instead of brute force.

I find it truly amazing that there are people that believe systemic racism does not exist today!! Let me say that I am an black American who is 73 years old and the very same racist things I witnessed as a child I still see today, I don’t know any black men that at some point in their lives have not been harassed by the police, the overwhelming majority of police officers are decent, but there are bad ones aided by good officers remaining silent, people of color have been complaining about police brutality for as long as I can remember, it seems more prevalent now because of the availability of video..remember Dylan Roof who killed 9 people and when apprehended the police stopped by Burger King to buy him a meal, because he was hungry!!!, remember Eric Garner was killed by an officer using a banned choke hold for selling loose cigarettes!!! And incidentally the guilty officer only lost his job 5 years later!! I spent 13 months with the Marine Corps in Vietnam during the same period of time states in my country were using attack dogs and fire hoses on my people who only wanted their constitution guaranteed rights granted...I could go on and on .. I find it very insulting that people that have never walked in a black persons shoes are audacious enough to say systemic racism doesn’t exist

I say nothing could be done given the information open threat to leo's was told going to get my gun out of car and kill you .... past history and no compliance with commands he opened door of car and reached ...sorry I am going to shoot you not going to wait until you point a weapon at me or my fellow team mates