Posted on Apr 2, 2014
What are you opinions on Chaplain Assistants getting "Special Treatment" from their units?
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What are you opinions on Chaplain Assistants getting "Special Treatment" such as exemption from CQ/Staff duty, Comp-Time for working Chapel Services on the weekends, etc. from their units?<div><div><br></div><div>What do you think should Chaplain Assistants be treated differently or should they be treated the same as any other soldier in the unit? <br></div></div>
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Well considering that Chaplain Assistants don't work for a company, they're just assigned to an Headquarters Company and they live in battalion, I said let them. If someone came to me seeking spiritual help after doing the things that probably require divine intervention, I'd probably want the weekend to myself to drink more than is humanly possible.
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I agree. Chaplins assistants don't do any hard duty, get comp days and get to go on all sorts of awesome trips. They need to make them work way more!! Nah just kidding lol.. Every job in the Army comes with pros and cons. Never seen one with more pros tho, ever.. All you need to do is worry about you and what you're doing. You'll be fine.
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CPT (Join to see)
Yea but you all aren’t recognizing that CAs may not “appear” to do any hard jobs, but they deal with peoples worst days. Talk people out of killing themselves, listen to rape victims, help Soldiers through crisises and a lot of other areas. That takes a mental toll on Soldiers, and that is their duties so who wants to trade jobs???? Or complain because they may get a little extra time off. You all want some time off?? Do the best job you can and impress your leadership, they can request the commander to give you a pass for your hard work.
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PFC Adam Toner
My sentiments exactly. I would rather pull CQ more often than tell a mother or wife that their soldier was killed or killed themselves!! Ill do all the CQ before I pull chaplin dutys!!!!
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If I had subordinates working weekends I would fight to get them time off if possible. It’s called being a leader it’s our job. My point is you are treated the same as any joe would be in the same position.
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There are Chaplains Assistants? They Work? Sorry for the teasing and sarcasm. We have lots of duties and jobs in the military, Some you are going to take a bit of ribbing for. Served on a Nuclear Cruiser we had one Chaplain and he had one assistant. I think the Chaplain's assistant was assigned to the Adminitrative/Clerical Division/Department and drew the same garbage that the rest of us in Operations Did. Petty Officer of the Watch, what have you. Never worked for me, I usually drew me a Knarly old Boatswains Mate as my Petty Officer of the Watch when I was Officer of the Deck.
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Having been a Chaplain's Assistant, I can tell you it's not all roses and song. You are in effect "on call" for anything the Chaplain needs assistance on. If he needs to make a trip to counsel a soldier and possibly his family, you're going, unless you have a leave already put in. You tend to work 6 days a week, half a day Sunday, and half a day on another day. You usually have Mondays off. If you like to follow sports, like football, on the weekend, well, you can't. You don't have a real weekend, like most troops. If you want to go out on a Friday night, well usually you can't because you have to get the chapel ready Saturday for Sunday. Any letters the Chaplain needs written, you're the one who takes his scribble, and translates it into something that will get processed and through the c-o-c to get done. Most of the upkeep of the Chapel...yeah, you get that too. Bushes trimmed, odd paint jobs, small repairs; you had better be ready to be a jack of all trades, because that's the job.
You can tell me all the reasons why you want them to be a soldier, and I can come up with more reasons why they can't. Unless you've been in their shoes and done that job, you really don't have a clue to their work schedule.
You can tell me all the reasons why you want them to be a soldier, and I can come up with more reasons why they can't. Unless you've been in their shoes and done that job, you really don't have a clue to their work schedule.
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PO1 Kerry French
Sorry, are used voice to text and it didn’t translate everything properly. I am actually literate
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PO1 Kerry French
Oh, and my favorite chaplain's request of all time, "Hey RP1, I want you to dress up as the Easter Bunny!" No sh!t I was asked to do this... Does any other rate get such blatant unprofessional treatment? I told him that if I dressed up like a bunny, it would be a playboy bunny. He found someone else! Pound sand, chaps!
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I was a Navy Hospital Corpsman. Sailors contently complained about us not pulling certain duties. Those same whiners would wake one of us up in the middle of the night if they had a headache.
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PO1 Kerry French
Exactly... you guys get the same types we get except you can shove a thermometer in their mouths and give Vitamin M... We just had to listen to the whining with no way to ascertain whether there was merit to it or not. Some people were just whiny and some had legit situations... Some wives would come all upset that hubby wanted a divorce when he got back and found out she was ^%$^$ the whole base! I hated those ones!! UGH!!
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Ultimately it gets down to the chaplain he or she works for and the NCO or E4s desire to make any influence on the unit. Some chaplain assistants I've seen were not worth a tinkers dam. Others were true professionals eager to serve alongside and "minister to" their colleagues and comrades in arms. Using the status of chaplain assistant to get any special treatment would for those folks violate all they believe and hold dear. No one should ever expect the chaplain assistant to be overt about his or her creed belief systems (it's a definite plus to have some "invisible means of support" as they used to say) but I saw chaplain assistants with every belief world view possible or none at all. What the soldiers should expect is someone there fully committed to assisting the Chaplain in delivering unit ministry consistent with the mission/vision of the Brigade or Bn chaplaincy. My experience with chaplain assistants have been limited--- but my wife has known many of their wives at the base PWOC fellowship. We seem to have or at least my wife and I encountered a few chaplain assistants who came across as irresponsible young men married to manipulative "needy" wives. I do think with only rare exceptions the chaplain assistant should be an MOS restricted to NCOs
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MAJ Frank H Staley
Sounds like you're describing many a field grade officers wife!
The ones In referring to walked around acting as if they were the officer
The ones In referring to walked around acting as if they were the officer
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PO1 Kerry French
I encountered a lot more hussy wives cheating on their guys when they were deployed and we got to clean up the mess and listen to them cry when he wanted a divorce. I remember walking through the fellowship hall when a wives group was meeting and they were gleefully talking about how the Servicemen's Life Insurance had gone from $250,000 to $400,000 and all the women giggled and clapped. I almost F'ing vomited!!! I thought what a bunch of money grubbing B*****... I think I mumbled something about "You know your husbands have to DIE before you get that." and they just looked at me... Disgusting!
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are you kidding me so you want me to have more duties then the average soldier such as be on2-3 will your just on 1-2 think before you speak. Also are duty only falls on sat and Sundays so why shouldn't we get time off.
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In my opinion they should be treated the same way the BN Commander's driver is -- no touchy touchy. The Chaplain's Assistant has a tough enough job without being stuck on some duty roster for CQ or Fire Watch or even SDNCO. It's not special treatment - the CA has unpredictable duties, many of which run independently of the unit's training and duty schedule. Just try telling the chaplain that he has to set up for Sunday service all by himself because SPC Snuffy had to pull CQ and is asleep. I'll guarantee that it will be a hot topic of conversation the next time the Padre sits down for a cup of coffee with the CSM -- or 1SG or PSG or all three. Don't mess with the Padre's help -- trust me, I was a Padre (okay I was a British Padre - but I was still a Padre).
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SPC Wanda Vergara-Yates
Who else knows where all the stuff is besides the CA? There is a lot of "stuff" that goes into prepping for chapel events. Sometimes I was around to see some of it when I was prepping for my own participation in services as a member of the chapel community (music stuff for me).
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PO1 Kerry French
A British Padre... my favorite! No rank... I loved watching people lose their minds when trying to determine your rank... I served with 3. Two in St. Mawgan and one at San Diego.
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SSG Dale London
Ah, they would have been Royal Navy Chaplains, then. You're right. They don't wear rank -- even the Deputy Chaplain of the Fleet is indistinguishable from every other padre. Army and RAF Chaplains do wear rank but tend to get a bit prickly when you call them "sir" or "ma'am."
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