Posted on Aug 16, 2021
SSG Carlos Madden
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I can't say I'm surprised that this is all happening. Right now I'm just sad and frustrated.
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SGT Richard Flores
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Seeing all this unfold brings be back to watching the same thing happen in Iraq not that long ago.. I helped train Iraqi police officers on how to be the support for their community and a few months after we left they turned their guns over to ISIS..
it’s a tough time and it really does make me feel worse for my brothers that didn’t make it home, but I will never feel bad or regretful for my service and my time spent there.
This is not on us, we had to give them back the keys to their home at some point, and unfortunately they couldn’t handle it..
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SPC Fred Reese
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We live in the greatest country (USA) BUT because of our form of government, who ever is in charge in Washington DC at any given time has not kept Treaties produced by some other years government. Just ask any American Indian Tribe. I pointed this out to my friends in Vietnam, Croasia, Mexico, ECT. The second issue (beside not having any honor in Washington DC Government) non of the officials in Washington DC have read what Thomas Jefferson wrote about Islam nor bother to find out why all Marines he sent in to fight Islam had to read the Quran. Sorry I lost my spell checker in 2020 after 57 years.
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SGT Jeff Nolan
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Sorry for your loss, and your service.
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PO2 Sam Goforth
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Partisan politics aside, everyone inside the Washington D.C. Beltway has always believed that the entire universe revolves around them and that they are in charge of said universe.
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PFC Ray Gibb
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I am completely frustrated over this.

This is another Vietnam, Fall of Saigon! We know that YES,Trump had downsized our COMBAT FORCES to 2,500, there was a complete withdrawal plan in place.

Lying Joe Biden said today, that "this collapse is all the fault of the previous administration! Trump had no plans for the withdrawal!" HOWEVER, we KNOW this is not true.

Even our "woke" military leaders told Biden not to proceed. Leave the numbers at 2,500 and get back to the Table. Extend if need be.

What is wrong with our Military Leaders? The have the Constitutional right to step in, place the President, Vice President, Speaker of the House, Several sitting Representatives, President of the Senate, Schumer and other sitting Senators, for Sedition, Treason, High Treason, Grand Larceny against the United States, Fraud to include, Postal, Telephone, Internet, and Television against the United States. This to hold them while they supervise a complete 50 State, 2+ Teratories forensic audit of the 2020 Election.

In the meantime, they also take Justice John Roberts into Custody for the same charges and additional due to his position. None of these people will have outside or even visitations from each other.

There cells will contain a single Sleeping pad on a cement slab, a toilet, a sink and shower, a table with two chairs (for when their Attorneys are allowed to visit.

IF the audit PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, that Trump won, they will Temporarily reinstall him under the Constitution and guidance of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They will select a new Justice, all other Justices will then have to be resworn under the Constitution, by the head of the Joint Chiefs, once that is done, Trump will be resworn by the new Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. His Vice President would also be sworn.

President Trump will be eligible to run for 2024.

If the gutless Military Leaders, would TRULY WAKE UP, even with this loser in the Whitehouse!

They use the original SHOCK and AWE, HOWEVER after all civilians are relocated to a safe shelter; ready to move back home within 72 hours.

With all civilians particularly the kids and elderly, the President currently in hiding safe, we go in three four M.O.A.B.s, Thousands of Stingers, with 2,000 Heavily armed Soldiers following right behind taking prisoner ANYONE on the Streets. After 48 hours, US Army Corps of Engineers enter each city, and get their Infrastructure in place - at least for the new Government to take hold.

We would need to commit 2,500 of the highest trained combat forces, as would Isreal, Jordan, the UK, France, and other ALLY Nations. These forces will be Units of a blend of all nations present, so not all Americans, not all UK, not all Israeli etc.

On top of this we and our Allies will do support their building and structure their Government.

Work where each Tribes Teratories are States, with a basic CONSTITUTION but each state in many ways maintaining their current structure, and slowly adopt true democracy. We give them 24 months with trained negotiaters, trained instructors. We pull out completely, with an ENLARGED EMBASSY and more assets assigned but our Military concentrating on Strategies against Russia and China.

If our military would just read the law in the UCMJ - Uniform Code of Military Justice, as well as the US Constitution, this could be a real thing.

Oh! so there is no showing of Bias, IF, FOR SOME BIZARE REASON, we find no mass fraud, etc. and Mr. Biden is named the winner, he will remain behind bars with his VP our Interm President and the Speaker behind bars, making next in line VP.
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TSgt Ann Smith
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Trump signed and agreed to total withdrawal by May 2021 sir. He even said it with his own lips.
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PFC Ray Gibb
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TSgt Ann Smith this true, but He is no longer in charge and has not been for Seven months.

I have not heard it yet but I understand Keliann read the Trump plan for withdrawal. Everyone knew that the Government that had been set up would not hold up on an overnight pull out. From Trump's withdrawal and his negotiating skills by the end of the year Afghanistan would basically be a nation of States. States laws top for most crimes, however there would be some that it is for the betterment of the nation the united government would take the lead.
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PFC Ray Gibb
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CPO James Barnhart yes, but it does give one a sense of accomplishment for those that did so much over there.
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TSgt Ann Smith
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I hope we don't get out on Aug 31, so ..ish can start up again. So we can fight and take back our ..ish. It's the only way to restart the clock. I don't want bloodshed but they just handed us our azzes for eternity. There will be no way for us to go back there if we need to in the future. We should have always kept an army base there. One of the Taliban will be the new president and you thought Osama was dangerous and corrupt! His own people finally overthrew him, but that will NEVER happen with Taliban, Al-Qaida, ISIS, ect. We should have NEVER bargained with them and once they take the airport , we can forget it. Man.. just put ME in charge geezz!
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SP5 Ed Tasch
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While I am saddened that the Taliban will take over and that there may be horrible atrocities committed, I think it is time to go. This war, like Vietnam, has served only to reward the military industrial complex. Corporations and politicians have gotten rich on the backs of our military.
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Cpl Ken H
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All the lives sacrificed in the name of freedom for the past 20 years in Afghanistan...for what?
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SPC Ricky Dirr
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Yeah man, I know we can't save em all, but, didn't them boys we trained, over the last 20 years, enjoy the freedom, "they had",
Enough to fight a little harder?
We die EVERYDAY FOR IT!! ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL!! GOD BLESS THE USA!! AND GOD BLESS ALL YOU!! MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!! MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON PAKISTAN
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Glad to have our troops out of Afghanistan.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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I am extremely disappointed and frustrated in the decision making process of the current administration in the handling of the withdrawal of U.S. Forces from Afghanistan. We all knew the day was coming, but I fell that there were numerous options available instead of just "cutting sling" on the Afghan Forces. That is how I see it. We cut sling on them. I am deeply saddened and upset to see the black flag of the Taliban flying over places where my Soldiers and I have fought. I do however take great solace in the fact that I served over there with some of the finest Soldiers that our Country produced. For me, I served over there for my Soldiers, their families, and then the People of Afghanistan. I feel that I did right by my Soldiers and their families. To the people of Afghanistan, I tried. My Soldiers tried. At the end of the day you need to try. And if you don't want to, then it is what it is.
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SFC S2 Intelligence Ncoic
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The Afgahnistan Armed Firces do not wish to better their country. If they did, they wouldn't cower and basically piss away 20 years of training and equipment. They used us for their own financial assistance and lack the discipline and morale within the ranks to turn this around. Its too late. Many American and Nati lives list just so they could hand the country back over to the Taliban. This is disgraceful and honestly quite embarrassing. If this pull out of our Forces was years in the planning, then it was planned poorly. Could've gradually done it over a good year and not start an immediate dumpster fire. As far as the Afghanistan citizens go, I wish them the best of luck and the balls to take back their country. But I feel that even as early as it is in this garbage fire, there is no turning back and the Taliban does not give a crap about honoring any part of their deal. It's just a matter of time until we see another significant terrorist attack on U.S soil. Sad, sad, sad.
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NATO lives lost I meant.
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TSgt Ann Smith
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and as a Supply personnel, I would have been KICKED out or in prison if I left that equipment behind!
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SGT Felicia King
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-rumsfeld-democracy-in-iraq-was-unrealistic/
It’s unfortunate and sad because you think of the remaining Afghan citizens left in the country. But it’s not altogether shocking; it is mostly what you would have expected when the U.S. finally leaves. It is good to know that the U.S. officials made accommodations to send some of the many (and their families) that worked side by side with the US military to Fort Lee to go forth with their citizenship.
The cbs article link is from 2015, former Defense Secretary Rumsfeld speaking about Iraq, but still very relevant to Afghanistan. It is good to help other countries, but you cannot force your own democracy on that country. There will still be foreign aid to Afghanistan, however not in military form.
Many are saying that the past 20 years of sacrifice is all for nought. However, thinking of the many that were saved I don’t consider anyone’s sacrifice taken for granted. There are no victories in war; you can only hope that good will come out of it and lessons be learned. In the US Civil War, many died by the sword because of the blood spilled by the lash. But the country was better for it, and the sacrifices of all those that died are still to be honored today. Many even commented how it was eerily familiar to when the US left Saigon.
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