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Voting Identity Theft
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Why not? We have SS#s which, by law, can't be used for ID purposes by the gov't...
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SSG (Join to see)
Natural-born citizens are issued Social Security cards and birth certificates, which is sufficient for identification along with a photo ID. To my knowledge, naturalized citizens and permanent residents are issued photo IDs and immigration numbers, anyway. I know this, because one of my parents is a naturalized citizen, and the other is a legal permanent resident. They both have those forms of IDs.
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LTC (Join to see)
I understand what you are saying, perhaps I am naïve but I don't see how it would discriminate.
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MSG (Join to see)
LTC (Join to see) - I was trying to make light humor at all the voter id laws/rants and illiegals being allowed drivers licenses talks.........it sounded much funnier in my head.
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LTC Kevin B.
MSG (Join to see) - I think most reasonable people aren't against voters being asked for identification. The voter ID laws only become problematic (to most) when they are specifically drawn up in a way to influence elections. Things like forcing people to incur costs, travel long distances, seek out obscure documentation, etc., as well as cherry-picking the types of ID that count (Concealed carry? No problem. Student ID? No way) are the types of details that clearly show the intent of the laws. That's when I have a problem with voter ID laws. I'd be okay with a national ID card as long as it was free, made easily available and given to all citizens. While we're at it, I'd also like for it to include automatic voter registration at 18 years of age.
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SrA Edward Vong
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Yes. However you still have to pay for them. I meant this as free of charge.
Yes. However you still have to pay for them. I meant this as free of charge.
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National ids mean that the feds can then track each person. A cell phone enables tracking of course. Tracking might appear to be benign for now but it can very easily be used for nefarious purposes. I do not want crooks to be able to know when no one is in my home nor do I want some bureaucrat to know my location at the press of a button.
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LTC (Join to see)
Good point, I know some countries do have such systems in place. I wouldn't want to see that here.
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SSgt Robert Marx
That is true that credit cards enable tracking but they are not real time nor do they follow you outside of the store. The use of a credit card indicates your position and your spending preferences. That sort of data is more applicable to big business which has massive libraries on every consumer in the country who use debit, credit, and even checking accounts to pay for goods & services. The way of anonymity is to use only cash. That way is unsafe and liable to lose money the easiest way by theft, carelessness, or whatever. We pretty much have no choice but to be without privacy in this country. Big business has incredible amounts of info on each of us. You can't own property without a public record. You must have a bank account to conduct necessary business to obtain food, shelter, and transportation.
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LTC (Join to see) I believe, anyone living in this country, should be required to have a photo ID of some sort, and should be willing to produce it, for anything they need and it is required for. Perhaps, as a career Soldier, I am used to this, but I get pissed at the left rallying for the rights of folks to vote, and get government services without having to have such identification. I am old school, I guess, but you live here, you play by our rules, not your own. I have lived in other countries, and I always played by their rules and never expected them to adjust their rules to make me feel better.
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Yes, and a database for prescription medication fraud that mandatory for ALL retail and wholesale locations. As a previous law enforcement officer, we were able to hit a database in 1991 that gave us the record on everyone we stopped for all 50 states, its not that hard, we would know whose who for sure, but then no one really wants that these days do they? I answered a question with a question, I need sleep!
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LTC (Join to see)
The biggest thing it would do is to provide each and every citizen with a government issued photo ID.
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SSgt Robert Marx
The SSN was originally established so that the government could identify each person who either paid into the system or received benefits. It was not intended to ever be used for identification purposes; however, banks used them to be sure that taxes were paid for interest income. As citizens, we are not required to show our SSN to anyone but that business could decide to not do business with you. It always rankles me for a business to want my SSN on a check.
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I think it could be a good idea especially if we could possibly tie in a national concealed carry permit option.
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