Posted on Feb 24, 2017
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CPT Larry Hudson
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Social security is already a national I'd card. It's protected by law from being used public ally except for hackers. National card would help I'd the enemies of the Republic
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CPT Larry Hudson
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Great idea qualifies I'd for voting
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I think we (SM's) already have one Sir. I don't know if I'd make it mandatory though, allow the Citizens to decide if they want to get it. It could be helpful for people who are constantly traveling though.
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I am thinking more along the lines of a national ID card for everyone.
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TSgt Senior Cyberwarfare Capabilities Instructor/Integrator
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As a collection of supposedly "Free and Independent States," no. There are a number of reasons, but the biggest one is there is no power granted under the Constitution of the United States to the federal government to produce/manage a national ID.
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Great point, maybe an amendment is needed.
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TSgt Senior Cyberwarfare Capabilities Instructor/Integrator
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LTC (Join to see) - Not a reason, IMNSHO, to amend the Constitution. One of the reasons our system works, is the states can act free and independent of each other. Which is also the reason for Article IV Section 1. This allows the several States to set the standard for an ID and the other States are supposed to recognize it. Which is why you only need to have a driver's license from your home state and not one from every state you travel through.

It would also require repeal of the 10 Amendment as this power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states they retain the power to produce, issue, and manage identification for their citizens.
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SFC William H.
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It would entail a data base. I can hear the screams now................
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Hopefully with the last breached, the government will employ some technology to protect the data.
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SFC William H.
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LTC (Join to see) - I agree. This reminds me that my Government protection for the breach of information has now expired and I better be looking for a replacement. Lifelock?
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SSgt Robert Marx
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National ids mean that the feds can then track each person. A cell phone enables tracking of course. Tracking might appear to be benign for now but it can very easily be used for nefarious purposes. I do not want crooks to be able to know when no one is in my home nor do I want some bureaucrat to know my location at the press of a button.
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Good point, I know some countries do have such systems in place. I wouldn't want to see that here.
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Do you use a credit card? If so you are tracked.
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SSgt Robert Marx
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That is true that credit cards enable tracking but they are not real time nor do they follow you outside of the store. The use of a credit card indicates your position and your spending preferences. That sort of data is more applicable to big business which has massive libraries on every consumer in the country who use debit, credit, and even checking accounts to pay for goods & services. The way of anonymity is to use only cash. That way is unsafe and liable to lose money the easiest way by theft, carelessness, or whatever. We pretty much have no choice but to be without privacy in this country. Big business has incredible amounts of info on each of us. You can't own property without a public record. You must have a bank account to conduct necessary business to obtain food, shelter, and transportation.
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SSgt David Marks
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I'm against it, we already have ID's. We have to provide them for just about everything. Where e need it most is when we go to vote. There are too many people voting that aren't either citizens of this country, or they are voting more than once which is illegal also.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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The NRA will label it an invasion of privacy
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SMSgt Roger Horton
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A national ID card would be great for individuals without any other form of ID. An illegal alien national ID card is a thought. Would't have to wonder.
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