Posted on May 6, 2015
What are your thoughts on the garrison crackdown on...well..."crack down?"
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There is a renewed emphasis on military posts across the services on cracking down on 'poor wear' of civilian clothes. What are your thoughts on this effort? Will it make much of an impact? Have YOU been fined for showing a bit too much skin?? I'm not sure of the overall lasting effects of this new emphasis. One thing is for certain, however. I will enjoy being out in public on post at the PX enjoying my Starbucks without trying to avoid seeing someone's "Spongebob Square Pants!"
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I don't think "inappropriate" civilian clothes is as big of an issue as all the stories about it would have us believe. In the last decade I've probably only seen 3-5 Soldiers dressed like this on post. But then again I don't hang around the PX food court on the weekend...
What worries me about it is, we have Soldier that won't comply with guidance/directive from a fellow Soldier/superior NCO/officer without needing to see it in writing from a general. Trust me, our senior leaders have bigger things to worry about than this. The fact that this has (apparently) become such an issue in some places that the GOs need to get involved is troubling.
What worries me about it is, we have Soldier that won't comply with guidance/directive from a fellow Soldier/superior NCO/officer without needing to see it in writing from a general. Trust me, our senior leaders have bigger things to worry about than this. The fact that this has (apparently) become such an issue in some places that the GOs need to get involved is troubling.
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CH (MAJ) William Beaver
I bowl on Monday nights in a league at the Ft Gordon Lanes, with alot of Veterans. There are a couple of young civilian "cousins" of some Vet who come to bowl with tank tops, sweat pants; and the sweats are sliding down so when they are walking around we see where they shopped for their boxers. It is disgusting. I've spoken to one of them about it, but they say I am out of line. Really? SMH
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MAJ (Join to see)
That's what I'm hearing is the most common issue. Sadly, most of the installations that are enacting these policies aren't putting any authority behind it for the civilians on post. The commanders need to direct AAFES/MWR to not serve patron in violation of the dress code. Otherwise, what authority do I have over Joe's girlfriend in the PX food court? Pretty much none, I can tell Joe he needs to take her away. But, she doesn't fall under UCMJ and doesn't have to obey my orders. As long as AAFES/MWR keep serving people in violation, we'll keep having this conversation.
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MAJ (Join to see)
God knows I'm not going to have a shouting match with Tiffany Amber about her "right to bare arms (/belly)" in the commissary. No way to win that one, wrestle with the pigs get covered in mud...
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Wearing civilian attire is a privilege not a Right.
If you can't wear it appropriately, you can quickly find yourself only wearing uniforms. We have uniforms for every occasion.
It's actually very simple. Failure to wear civilian attire correctly will result in wearing the Service uniform in off-duty hours unless you have been granted Leave.
If you can't wear it appropriately, you can quickly find yourself only wearing uniforms. We have uniforms for every occasion.
It's actually very simple. Failure to wear civilian attire correctly will result in wearing the Service uniform in off-duty hours unless you have been granted Leave.
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Waiting for a base commander to institute that, due to lax standards in civilian attire, the policy for their base is that while on duty, the member shall wear the uniform of the day. When off duty, the member shall wear the Class B (or which ever version of that is branch specific) uniform until lights out.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SSgt (Join to see) You can bet people will self police civilian attire issues as soon as the policy is relaxed though!
Can you imagine some jacknut wearing his gear half an inch low the week after civvies are authorized again...
Can you imagine some jacknut wearing his gear half an inch low the week after civvies are authorized again...
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We are expected to convey ourselves as professionals on and off duty. No more should have to be said.
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Wear them pants and use that belt, or me and Mr. Staplegun will help you!
I do NOT wanna see another person's chonies...or worse.
I do NOT wanna see another person's chonies...or worse.
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To me, I can care less, you might look stupid to me, but hey IDGAF, doesn't affect my life..
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For the life of me I can't figure how or why this is fashionable or comfortable!
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Should not be necessary in the military but it unfortunately most definitely IS! Society is very liberal these days and soldiers come from that environment and are influenced by it...if we do impart initially and continue to instill discipline throughout a career long path, it will end badly for our service and for the soldier...
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I think it is great but the sad part is aside from the dependents alot of them are Soldiers and they should know better because it is covered in AR670-1.
When on duty in civilian clothes or off duty and outside of their personal dwelling, Army personnel will present a professional image that does not detract from the profession, unless specifically exempted by the commander for specific mission requirements.
Pretty sure this does not include but cracks and underwear......
When on duty in civilian clothes or off duty and outside of their personal dwelling, Army personnel will present a professional image that does not detract from the profession, unless specifically exempted by the commander for specific mission requirements.
Pretty sure this does not include but cracks and underwear......
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