Posted on Jan 24, 2017
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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RP Members and Connections I found this picture very interesting and thought I would create some discussion. What are some of the things we can actually do without Government Permission?

Serve our Country in the Military? (Need permission, right?)

Is our Government too involved in our Freedoms and Rights?

Taking Drugs for me meant prescription drugs!

Your thoughts & comments are welcome.
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Most of government permission are just rights that were taken and are sold back through licensing
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CPT Earl George
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I remember in 1955 my mom giving me a list and a $20 to go to the meat market 3 blocks away to get groceries. I was 5 at the time. Now let your 5 year old be 3 blocks from home alone and see if your not charged with child neglect.PS: at nine, I delivered my own paper route by myself.
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I think the states have too many laws as well - and most are created as a knee jerk reaction to something - in Ohio - because of the increase in prescription drug abuse - anyone taking "certain" medications, must sign a pain management contract with their doctor on a year basis - take a urinalysis (which the state is paying for) and then you have to come into to the doctor's office at least every 3 months to get refills. At first the law allowed for the doctors to make a judgment call - in that there was no history that the patient was abusing the drugs - history of injury, etc. But just this last year - they changed the law (again as a reaction to more abuse in general) and now the patient has to take the drug test and come into the office (and pay a co pay out of pocket) at least every 3 months to get their prescriptions refilled - and I spend maybe 15 minutes total time in the office for this. So, as a veteran with 23 years of honorable service to my country and a federal employee that works at the federal prosecutor's office and has a background investigation done every five years - is treated like I am the same as the drug abuser on the street.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SMSgt (Join to see) Totally agree! Thanks for your great response!
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I'm in the same boat and it drives me crazy, SMSgt (Join to see). It first started with my Allegra-D allergy medication. I couldn't buy more than 14 days worth at a time because some people were buying it to make methamphetamine. I finally found a Safeway pharmacy that will accept a 90-day scrip from my allergist with 5 refills, saving me all those trips every two weeks! (insurance still won't pay for it anymore). Now, it's my one pain medication, and even my sleeping pill. I'm limited to a 30-day supply on both before the doctor has to write a new scrip - not a refill, but a new scrip. I have to physically go to the doctor's office to pick up the scrips and deliver them to the pharmacy; they can't fax them over like they used to do the 90-day scrips with refills. Never mind my pain, which the pills are for.

But you're right- we're treated like criminals, even though, like you, I've had background investigations and bring-ups done on me every 5 years for the past 44 years, taken polygraphs every few years for the past 22, not a single blemish on my record, military or civilian. Yet every 30 days I trudge off to my doctor's office to hand-carry a new scrip to the pharmacy for a pain pill and sleeping pill I've been on for the past 12 years for a chronic disability (Gulf War Illness) that will likely kill me in the next few years, if not sooner.
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
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With the painkillers, especially the opioids, and with the medication containing ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, or phenylpropanolamine, it is the DEA that enforces the regulations. The regulation limiting certain medications so called "controlled substances" have actually been in place for a long time. You'll find that your doctor also has a special prescription pad he uses for those medications. Each sheet is numbered and is traceable and has to be accounted for, it also makes a "carbon copy" that is required to be retained. They also include anti forgery/copy features. (Title 21 CFR Part 1308), despite all of that we are facing a major opioid addiction crisis, over 200K passed patients through treatment programs for this in Vermont last year. Vermont only has about 650K people in the whole state!

The restrictions of the ephedrine family have been around since 2005, criminals were buying it in large quantities because they can cheaply and easily be converted int o speed. The reason most will not sell larger quantities is that more than 60mg triggers a log keeping and ID requirement for the seller that is somewhat burdensome. Since it is an OTC medication, most insurances will not cover it.
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The DEA has just made an announcement regarding change in Schedule of Acryl Fentanyl - Today, July 14, 2017, the DEA published in the Federal Register (see attachment) a temporary scheduling order placing the synthetic opioid, N-(1-phenethylpiperidin-4-yl)-N-phenylacrylamide (acryl fentanyl or acryloylfentanyl) into schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). This temporary placement of N-(1-phenethylpiperidin-4-yl)-N-phenylacrylamide (acryl fentanyl or acryloylfentanyl) into Schedule I of the CSA is effective July 14, 2017, until July 15, 2019, unless it is extended for an additional year or a permanent scheduling proceeding is completed.
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PO1 Aaron Baltosser
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Not much unfortunately, and still we enjoy life better than many countries around the world. It could always be improved though, and that takes great effort, diligence, and constant watching because there are always those that think oppression 'for the public good' (read for those I think of as less than me because they aren't in Congress) is an acceptable approach to government.
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SFC William H.
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This "thread" gave me a headache...need a break.
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SSgt Jim Gilmore
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Breathe...so far...
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SFC Jim Ruether
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Very good point!
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COL Charles Williams
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Poop... drink, sleep...
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TSgt George Rodriguez
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Breathing air. All though its every ones allergy. Every day you breathe you gain a day in age. That is the allergy, getting old.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs you do not need permission from the government to purchase or build a house...Why does one need permission to leave the country? I buy a ticket and show my passport.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski - The passport is not a requirement to leave the country. It is a requirement to get back in ... or enter other countries.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Ya, the house example isn't really great. There are more government restrictions when building a house than you can count, and you must follow or builder won't get a certificate of occupancy.
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson
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LTC (Join to see) - If you can't GET into another country without a passport you bought from THIS government, then good luck leaving. Go ahead, try and sneak into Mexico or Canada.
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson - Doesn't change the fact that it isn't a requirement that OUR government is imposing.
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